[FoRK] Faith and/or Science dingding redux

[Tom Higgins]

On Nov 28, 2007 10:04 AM, Lion Kimbro <lionkimbro at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 28, 2007 9:55 AM, Tom Higgins <tomhiggins at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes I know it is a sad burlesque and try as we might we can not
> > intellect this horror show away. Many of us are trapped in the
> > nightmare of other peoples ideas of a loving god.
>
>   And many of us are trapped in the nightmare of an isolating,
>   cold, "let each fend for himself" God made of dollars.
>
You have used this line before, almost, and correct me (i know this is
already being done), as if it were the flip side to a forced two sided
issue

There are other alternatives though with the ongoing battle of
invisible monsters in the sky versus mean old white men despoiling the
earth to make a phatter bottom line  versus the nihilistic
individualism that seeks to rip out emotion love and all other other
car bear  thematics of a real and luving world  I would not fault
anyone for not being able to see them.


>   Love is without reason and rational, crazy and inspired in itself.

This sounds great in a sort of Hallmark way, but when terms get fuzzy
that seems to be when the confusion of conflict arise. This list is a
great great example of that.

"Love is"

Ok lets stop right there, LOVE = ?

And that it IS....ok so the first will help work out the second.

>
>   I don't think the Greeks really believed in their gods, though I'm
> sure some did.

Having not the ability to go with Mr Peabody and his boy Sherman in
the wayback machine I do not have the luxury of making such
statements. Can you show me some evidence of this statement?


>   Why then, are we so lifeless?

I feel very much alive, vibrant and with focus. When I do feel beat
down its usually via an oppressive regime that seeks to tell me that
unless or until I follow one particular
ethical/financial/social/consumeristic method or another I am doomed
to hell/the poor house/being an outcast/not having all the cool things
everyone else has aand thus not as cool as everyone else.

Attributing lifelessness to a thing does not in and of itself make it so.

-tom(2d4 vs thread of doom)higgins