Worth Re: [FoRK] Faith and/or Science - Newton et al

[Lion Kimbro]

On Nov 28, 2007 2:33 PM, Jeff Bone <jbone at place.org> wrote:
> NO to religion.

  When you say, "NO to religion," what do you mean?

  Are you saying, like:

    "No, to believing anything not proved by science,"

  or are you saying:

    "No, to churches."

  Do you have some kind of "thought-police" in mind,
  or is it merely, "You can't shop at my store, because
  you have religious beliefs."  Or, "You can shop here,
  but I'm going to grimace at you while you're here?"

  Or are you just saying, "I don't like any religion,
  any how?"


  When I was growing up, I had a stars & bars flag
  on the wall by my bed.  I loved it!  It was awesome,
  just like the Dukes of Hazard!

  When I was growing up, we took it down.  I asked
  my dad if he was a racist, or anything like that.  He
  said that when he was growing up in the South, that
  he kind of was;  But when he went to university, his
  mindset totally changed.

  Still, he loved Alabama, where he grew up, and he
  felt some personal affinity for the stars & bars.
  "But it doesn't mean today what it meant back then."
  So it's just a "family secret."  It's not on the wall,
  and I think he may have even destroyed it.

  Is that how it's going to be with the Narnia books?

  "Well, this meant something to me back then,
   but it means something different today, then
   it meant back then, ... ...So, read this, knowing
   that we're going to burn it later."

  So, I can imagine that it could be burned, along
  with Madeline Le'Engle's A Wrinkle in Time,
  (for "references to God,") ...

  But, I have to wonder:

  In your vision of the future, what do people live for?
  Just: "for their own individual selves?"  For what?
  How do they understand themselves?  What has
  meaning?  What is their story?  What is their concept
  of what they want to do?  How do they relate with
  the Universe?  What do they care for?  What is the
  diversity like?

  It reminds me of the puzzle of Heaven.  Everyone
  has vivid imaginations about what hell is like, but when
  it comes to Heaven, people get all abstract and fuzzy.