[FoRK] Please Help

Lion Kimbro <lionkimbro at gmail.com> on Mon Dec 3 12:54:31 PST 2007

On Dec 3, 2007 11:37 AM, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar
<drernie at radicalcentrism.org> wrote:
> I appreciate your vision.  However, I must agree that FoRK is not a
> place conducive to your vision. Or your way of approaching issues.

  When I read, "...I must agree that FoRK is not a place
  conducive to your vision," I think:  "OK, he's saying that FoRK
  just doesn't want to hear this, and that I should move on.  Fair
  enough."

  When I read, "Or your way of approaching issues," I think:
  "Dr. Ernie Prabhakar thinks there's something wrong with
  how I talk and engage people.  Maybe."

  I don't have any formal training in sharing ideas with people.
  My method is to (A) show up, (B) listen, and then (C) say
  what I think.

  Elias told me, "Well, you should ask questions."  (Paraphrasing.)
  While asking questions is very valuable, and I'm a questions
  man myself, what I have to say here is big and complex,
  and requires explanation and conversing to get it out.

  Maybe you have some "Lion, it'd all work out, if you just
  presented your ideas like so."  You're probably right.
  But I don't know how to speak authentically, while talking
  "like so."  For a lot of "like so"'s that people have presented
  me, I have found: "But then I can't say what I want to say *at all!*"

  Well, I just wanted to say this.


> >  I'm going to leave, if there isn't some support, or someone saying,
> >  "This isn't okay," publicly.
>
> Unfortunately, "okay" is defined as a social norm, and on this site
> there are no real rules about respect or civility.

  No, there aren't, which is exactly why anyone here is
  free to say, "That's not okay."


> So, I agree the behavior isn't "good", but I'm afraid it is considered
> "okay."

  Fair enough.


> Thus, maybe it is for the best if you move on. Sorry.

  <nod>

  Understood.

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