[FoRK] Please Help

[paul]

Sorry, Lion, I can't help you about feeling vulnerable and fearful.

I think your "vision that science and spirituality are not by nature 
opposed to each other" is good.  I do think your way of trying to meld 
the two is a call for hip-waders and I'm too far from college life to deal.

I don't think you can meld science and spirituality AND call it 
"something".  (Ok, pretend and call it whatever it is that Tom Cruise is 
messing with.)  A scientist /can/ have Spirituality.  So too, can a 
Catholic Priest have Science.

It's not an A or B thing.  Both can chase boys.  Or girls.  Or goats.

It seems to my little monkey brain that god or something is all around 
us.  Not that I really believe in god but stuff like watching puppies 
birthing, emu hatching, trees leafing in spring, does make me wonder. 
Maybe it's just that Life is so interesting.

My belief?  If there is a god, he doesn't have time to fuck with us.... 
at best we are a spot of mold on a petri dish in his laboratory.

So.

There is so much bad in the best of us,
And so much good in the worst of us,
That is ill behoves any of us,
To talk about the rest of us.

See the picture:  http://www.remsset.com/good.html

Works well for me...


Take everything with a big pinch of salt.  Life is wonderful.  Enjoy 
Life.  And then, you die.   And that's all, folks.


paul


Lion Kimbro said the following on 12/3/2007 11:22 AM:
>   Dear FoRK,
> 
>   I'm feeling very vulnerable and fearful.
> 
>   I'd really like some support, from somebody, anybody, really.
> 
>   I have a vision that science and spirituality are not by nature opposed
>   to each other.  This is a vision of spirituality that does not rely
> on anything
>   otherworldly, etheric.
> 
>   I think that "the heart" is real, that feeling love is real, that these are
>   psychological realities.  And I think that the word "God" can be understood
>   in terms of love of life, love of nature, love of society.  And I
> think humankind
>   has a social instinct, and that there are people out there who want to share
>   the story of love of the universe with one another.
> 
>   I think it's one thing for Tom & Jeff to say, "This guy's a jerk," or for Tom
>   to say, "Moderator, remove this person," repeatedly, always followed with,
>   "Oh, I'm only joking."  That's "okay."
> 
>   But when it gets to the world of saying, "You need serious psychological
>   help," and trying to classify someone as a DSM-whatever, I feel threatened,
>   and I think a line has been crossed.
> 
>   I'm fearful right now, I'm scared, and I really need some support.
> 
>   Please.
> 
>   I'm going to leave, if there isn't some support, or someone saying,
>   "This isn't okay," publicly.
> 
>   Thank you,
>     Lion

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