[FoRK] Re: Please Help

[silky]

On Dec 5, 2007 8:42 AM, Sat N <sateesh.narahari at gmail.com> wrote:
> What is the alternative? Put them on a boot camp of Memetics?
>
> In any social structure, there will be leaders. Its been the way even
> before there was religion.

Not in all social structures. Bee's for example. Ants maybe.

But anyway, leaders are okay; it's electing them by majority (stupid)
vote, or having them elect themselves by trickery & fear that sucks.


>
>
> On Dec 4, 2007 2:33 PM, Devon Jones <soulcatcher at evilsoft.org> wrote:
> > Sat N wrote:
> > > You don't have that danger.
> > >
> > > There is no central authority. There are lots of religions in the
> > > world, each with its own  sects.
> > >
> > > You don't have the risk of central authority having absolute power.
> > > The pope might come close to being it for catholics,  but they often
> > > pick the stupidest guy they can find as the pope, so they lack the
> > > mental facilities to take control. So, I say we have an inbuilt
> > > protection in the system.
> > >
> > > There is no central authority in Islam, there isn't one in Hinduism,
> > > there isn't one in Judaism. Not too many religions believe in central
> > > authority.
> > >
> > >
> > You don't need a central authority for the whole religion.  You just
> > need a central authority for a group of people.  If the size is >
> > 100,000 people, they can do damage.
> >
> > Even if the leader is dumb (perhaps especially)
> > Even if there are other opposing groups
> >
> > Pat Robertson/Jimmy Swaggert
> > Numerous Ayatollahs
> > The Pope
> > The President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
> >
> > All of these people have enough people following them that they can
> > wield enormous power, and most have done so to the detriment of all of
> > us at some point or other.
> >
> > Is it really to our benefit to tell people that it's positive to listen
> > to these ideologues, and obey them unquestioningly?
> >
> >
> > Devon
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