Dr. Ernie Prabhakar
<drernie at radicalcentrism.org> on
Sat Dec 29 10:05:59 PST 2007
On Dec 29, 2007, at 9:13 AM, Lucas Gonze wrote:
> Lately I have stopped saying that I am an atheist. Instead I am
> saying that I am a materialist.
> I like this because it rejects all kinds of mysticism, not just the
> mega religions. This is good because private beliefs in informal
> magic are more common among my peers than active belief in
> Christianity, Judaism, or Islam.
I appreciate the attempt to frame things in a positive light. Could
you perhaps elaborate a bit more? For example, do you also consider
belief in things like "love" and "beauty" aspects of mysticism? Or do
you have a way to define so-called "transcendent" values in material
-- Ernie P.
> It's a positive statement of what I believe, as opposed to a void of
> what I don't believe, and it's easy to explain: I believe in the real
> world. I believe that the world in front of us is really there. I
> don't believe in anything which contradicts the real world. I believe
> in things which can be investigated.
> It takes control of the terms of the conversation. "Atheism" is like
> satanism in that it accepts religion as the baseline. But satanism
> has no meaning outside of Christianity, while atheism is a rejection
> of all mysticism and is the same thing in any context. Not-Islamic
> atheism is the same thing as not-Judaic atheism.
> Sorry to continue the endless conversation on religion and atheism,
> which I think most people here want to leave behind. I didn't
> participate much at the time, and this is the result of thinking about
> it for a while.
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