[FoRK] i8n question
<lucas.gonze at gmail.com> on
Tue Mar 4 20:46:26 PST 2008
IP geotargetting is pretty much the state of art, I am sorry to say.
Few sites care about the HTTP and HTML features
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Stephen D. Williams <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
> True. I think I may have mentioned before irritation with getting a
> particular version of a web site while traveling in Europe. I believe I
> kept getting the French version of something major, including only
> France-local information, when I wanted my "normal" US version of the
> information. I was using my normal, unmodified laptop and web browser.
> They were keying what information was shown completely from my IP
> address. That's just wrong on so many levels...
> Lucas Gonze wrote:
> > Good stuff, Steve. Thanks for taking the trouble.
> > Any chance you know of communities focused on web
> > internationalization? There must be a gang somewhere which follows
> > stuff like Accept-Language penetration data.
> > I'm working on localizing http://mediaplayer.yahoo.com and finding it
> > really challenging to do this well. It's inspiring to get to work on
> > such basic aspects of a web app. On the other hand, it doesn't feel
> > like web developers take this seriously. Mainly apps are written for
> > a single locality, with some nods to nearby localities thrown in. For
> > example, a site in German will have a version translated into English
> > that you can get to by clicking on an American flag in the banner.
> > My impression is that what's worldwide about the web is the protocols.
> > The content lives in separate pools depending on the language,
> > culture, and ecommerce limitations.
> > On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:08 PM, Steve Nordquist <saigua at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:49:55 -0600, Lucas Gonze <lucas.gonze at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Any localizations experts hereabouts?
> >> >
> >> > I need to figure out how common it is for users to set their language
> >> > preference in the browser, so that the Accept-Language request header
> >> > is accurate. Can anybody suggest a resource or angle to get an
> >> > answer?
> >> Hakon Lie answered that here ca. 2000, (less so W.R.T. Asia at the time; I
> >> think I saw a bit about that in interviews in Next Generation (now online
> >> only; and a subscription triweekly broadsheet promises such stuff) but you
> >> can probably find the answer from a structured query to the current Opera
> >> CTOs (probably in an Opera Community blog. Amazon used to share such
> >> metrics; now I guess you'd ask LiveJournal (etc.; that, there's a chart
> >> from Le Monde last week (
> >> http://www.lemonde.fr/web/infog/0,47-0@2-651865,54-999097@51-999297,0.html
> >> ...ValleyWag? I clicked Citez and it crashed Kestrel here...) to cover.)
> >> Oops, I'm told I live in Siberia for citing Livejournal instead of Orkut.
> >> Gotta go smoke an Elk now....
> >> iirc Koreans and Denmarkers were solid on accurate Accept-Language, and
> >> it's likely in Southeast Asia (Australia less so) but Welsh-only speakers
> >> in Wales were only doing it 50% of the time and English-America and
> >> English were fighting like pantsuits and pantsuits with cuffs (so, 25% of
> >> people being fickle, often.)
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