[FoRK] How Barack lost my vote forever

geege schuman <geege4 at gmail.com> on Wed Apr 23 12:45:48 PDT 2008

ohcomeON.

You like Hillary's health care proposal?  Where's *that* money coming from?
She's gonna tax the bejeezus out of us.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0907/5853.html

Note to self: if she wins, invest in MRK.

G

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Jeff Bone <jbone at place.org> wrote:

>
> I'm with you on the desperate desire to vote *against* the Republicans.
>
> OTOH, I'm not sure that's a valid reason to vote for a Socialist, as
> opposed to a Democrat.
>
> And OTOOH, I'm not sure McCain really counts as a Republican.  He certainly
> didn't before right-wing media's attempt to manipulate their own primary
> backfired through collateral damage and left McCain the only man standing.
>
>
> jb
>
>
> On Apr 23, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Stephen Williams wrote:
>
>> Anyway, although I believe McCain is a lot more rational, I cannot vote
>> for the party of theocrats.
>> As far as the economy, in the last 15-20 years or so, it has seemed a lot
>> better off during Democratic administration periods than Republican...
>>  Correlation, causation, blah blah.  Still.
>>
>> Either Democrat is fine.  McCain is, and maybe always was, compromised.
>>  The whole party, and many of their constituent groups, are in shambles.
>>  The best thing for them is to lose so they can clean house and skip on to
>> the next generation.  We're still dealing with guys who sharpened axes in
>> the 70's there.  Are you kidding me?
>>
>> I'd prefer Barack / Clinton (w/ Clinton 2 on backup / Carter mode ;-) ).
>>  She's not going to turn it down.  It is her clear path to the presidency.
>>
>> sdw
>>
>> Jeff Bone wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 23, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Luis Villa wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Jeff Bone <jbone at place.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2008, at 3:23 AM, Stephen Williams wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Oh. Come. On. I know you are not that closed minded. No politician is
>>>>>>
>>>>> going to pitch socialism in the US. Or try to kill the stock market.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well, clearly, I disagree.
>>>>>
>>>>> Generally speaking the man's a cipher --- by design, I assume.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just because Hillary says he's a cipher, and the press is too lazy to
>>>> correct that (see, e.g., http://dave.ofmassdestruction.com/?p=946 )
>>>> doesn't mean he's a cipher:
>>>>
>>>
>>> You're right.  I should have said that at best, he's a cipher.  At worst,
>>> where his policies are clear they are often objectionable IMHO.
>>>
>>> jb
>>>
>>>
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