[FoRK] How Barack lost my vote forever

geege schuman <geege4 at gmail.com> on Thu Apr 24 07:38:56 PDT 2008

That's not ALL I said.  Clinton was in a position to make a case against the
war. At the time, it would have been a very unpopular stance. She folded.
IMO, she's not leadership material.

Taxes are such a hot-button (read knee-jerk) issue that politicians avoid
any mention of raising them while at the same time promising to deliver the
moon.  You, Jeff, are a perfect case study of why politicians don't tell the
truth.  "Read my lips" no longer convinces, especially when hidden taxes
(don't EVEN argue this with me) besiege us.

Again, while Hillary promises that she'll mandate universal health care
coverage (again, who pays for that??) Obama sees the problem as

I think you fail to grasp the net/net effect - what most likely will amount
to a non-punishing tax increase for most to a universally punitive price
increase for all.

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Jeff Bone <jbone at place.org> wrote:

> On Apr 24, 2008, at 8:40 AM, geege schuman wrote:
>> That's a good point.  And Obama's the only candidate with the cajones (or
>> ovaries) to stand up to Bush.  We could use a leader here, not someone who
>> plays the politics of expedience.
> See, again, it's all about Bush.
> Look, I hate that man and what's he's done just as much as anyone on this
> list, perhaps far more than most.  I can't really bring myself to say
> ANYTHING good about him or his actions in office.  But no matter who we
> elect or what we do the last eight years cannot be undone.  The question is
> and should be which candidate going forward is going to do the most good for
> this country or, barring that, the least damage.  Whoever we elect isn't
> going to HAVE TO "stand up to Bush."  They're going to inherit a world where
> the damage has been done and must be dealt with.  That's manifestly not the
> same thing.
> jb
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