[FoRK] Obama: communitarian, redistributionist, confused? (from NYT)

geege schuman geege4 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 25 15:49:04 PDT 2008

Read the whole conversation, dammit.

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Tom Higgins <tomhiggins at gmail.com> wrote:

> You mean the narrowing of diversity and limiting the individual
> involvement (ie stakeholders) to maximize profits across the board?
> Now where have I heard this before?
> "
>        There is no
>        America.  There is no democracy.
>        There is only IBM and ITT and A T
>        and T and Dupont, Dow, Union Carbide
>        and Exxon.  Those are the nations of
>        the world today.  What do you think
>        the Russians talk about in their
>        councils of state -- Karl Marx?
>        They pull out their linear
>        programming charts, statistical
>        decision theories and minimax
>        solutions and compute the price-cost
>        probabilities of their transactions
>        and investments just like we do.  We
>        no longer live in a world of nations
>        and ideologies, Mr. Beale.  The
>        world is a college of corporations,
>        inexorably deter- mined by the
>        immutable by-laws of business.  The
>        world is a business, Mr. Beale!  It
>        has been since man crawled out of
>        the slime, and our children, Mr.
>        Beale, will live to see that perfect
>        world in which there is no war and
>        famine, oppression and brutality --
>        one vast and ecumenical holding
>        company, for whom all men will work
>        to serve a common profit, in which
>        all men will hold a share of stock,
>        all necessities provided, all
>        anxieties tranquilized, all boredom
>        amused.  "
> -tom(yes, i went there again)higgins
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