[FoRK] Obama: communitarian, redistributionist, confused? (from NYT)
jbone at place.org
Mon Aug 25 17:24:56 PDT 2008
On Aug 25, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Tom Higgins wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 1:04 PM, geege schuman <geege4 at gmail.com>
>> Give us a little credit, Jeff. We're all way too cynical to buy
>> into an
>> icon. For that, we can thank Bush.
Apparently not cynical enough.
> For that I can thank Nixon V McGovern. That was the first election I
> followed in any real sense of the term. That the nation landslided for
> Jeff's whole shebang this election
...Is being widely misrepresented by people who apparently fail to
"get" that I dislike McCain just as much as they do, and Bush and the
GOP of the day *even more* than they do! I mean come on, people;
nobody on this list has been a more outspoken critic of Bush, the
neocons, the right wing, and the GOP than I have over the last 8
years. Give me some credit.
> seems to be all about his horse
> loosing and thus everyone is a l0zer...the most mature series of
> thoughts from Jeff can not be found in the rants around this meme.
> Sorry bro, as much of a "two party idiots" basher as I am I have to
> say your platform is shakey at best and missing more planks than not.
Have no platform, really. The earlier bit wasn't intended as a real
blueprint, more like an exercise in fantasy realpolitic.
Don't have a horse in this race, Tom. Have made that point clear, I
The way I see it, we've got a choice between a protracted 12-16
quarter recession and a true, 10+ year Depression --- at a time when
China and India are going to be out-competing us on lots of
dimensions. Serious and probably never recoverable losses of average
quality of life for all Americans. That's not even the worst-case
scenario; it's just the middle of the road scenario.
A resurgent New Deal and leftism will ensure the latter. McCain won't
do anything to forestall the former, and might even make it worse ---
but he probably doesn't push us past the tipping point to the latter
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