[FoRK] Welcome Back Kotter

damien morton dmorton at bitfurnace.com
Mon Nov 10 11:13:29 PST 2008


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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 6:09 AM, geege schuman <geege4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Because "no more waterboarding" is an executive order, and the Chief
> Executive is still George W. Bush.  Are you seriously wondering where Obama
> stands on torture?
>
> Geesh.
>
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 1:21 AM, <owen at permafrost.net> wrote:
>
> > It took them 2 frigging days to have a well thought out platform
> including
> > national service, all sorts of new taxes, tons and tons of stuff. How
> much
> > effort would it have been to put in
> > "no more waterboarding"
> > or
> > "we renounce torture"
> >
> > Meet the new boss...
> > Owen
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 12:04:17PM -0800, Lucas Gonze wrote:
> > > ?
> > >
> > > Dude, 2 days.  2 friggin days.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:23 AM,  <owen at permafrost.net> wrote:
> > > > I hate to switch so quickly, but when I look at change.gov 2 days it
> > makes me
> > > > think JB was right after all. I see nothing about
> > > >
> > > > - closing Gitmo
> > > > - ending torture
> > > > - ending rendition
> > > > - ending illegal surveillance
> > > > - protecting the constitution
> > > > - reducing militarism
> > > >
> > > > In fact I see mostly the same language of "choose security over
> > freedom"
> > > > that Bush exploited so much, but with the added bonuses of higher
> taxes
> > and
> > > > protectionism.
> > > >
> > > > It makes me think that it's a truism that governments always get
> worse,
> > never
> > > > better.
> > > > Owen
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 05:52:45PM -0800, Tom Higgins wrote:
> > > >> "Only Satan would have been worse than the Bush regime. Therefore it
> > > >> could be argued that the new administration in the USA could never
> be
> > > >> worse than the one which divorced the hearts and minds of Americans
> > > >> from their brothers in the international community, which appalled
> the
> > > >> rest of the world with shock and awe tactics that included
> > > >> concentration camps, torture, mass murder and utter disrespect for
> > > >> international law. Yet in choosing Obama, the people of America have
> > > >> opted to come back into the international fold. Welcome back,
> > > >> friends!"
> > > >>
> > > >> http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/106660-changebetter-0
> > > >>
> > > >> -tom(Obama=Socialist confirmed:))higgins
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