[FoRK] Darn it, who brought up religion again?? Re: Bullish on Facebook

Stephen Williams sdw at lig.net
Fri Apr 24 19:32:38 PDT 2009

Yes, I realized this at 12-13 or so.  And then I realized that that was 
a poor reason to feign belief.  Not that I could make much of a big deal 
of it then.  But I did avoid wasting time and resources from then on, 
pretty much.  Not that my first wife, who's father had been a kind of 
lay minister for a bit, didn't drag me to church for a while until she 
realized it was futile.

My best friend's dad was a retired professor of philosophy, especially 
philosophy of death, so they were more or less an atheist family.  I 
just tried to politely ignore everyone else.  And I felt, and was, left 
out for other reasons already.  Luckily, the opportunity to "belong" 
felt tainted enough to me that I turned away from the "light".

Now a days, it's easy to find friends of all stripes, so that's not much 
of an excuse.  At least for us no-strong-family-American-mutt kind of 


HK Pang wrote:
> on the other hand, if most of your friends go to church, you feel a
> little left out...
> seems to me that for some people, religion is just another social network.
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Stephen Williams <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
>> Lucas Gonze wrote:
>>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:53 AM, J. Andrew Rogers
>>> <andrew at ceruleansystems.com> wrote:
>>>> Most atheists have beliefs that are every bit as religious in
>>>> construction
>>>> as those who believe the supposed musings of a Bronze age philosopher are
>>>> the inerrant word of (a) God.
>>> I'm sure there are some atheists for whom that's true.  But as a whole
>>> atheism is too simple and straightforward to leave room for that kind
>>> of speculation.
>>> It's easy: there's no god.
>>> Where's the religion
>> 10% net pay bump.  Free time on Sundays (and Saturdays (and every day at
>> prayer time)).  No conflicted, confused fear / guilt / inferiority /
>> superiority / anti-science personality contamination.  No confusion about
>> basic things like love, sex, food, business...
>> Ah, sweet freedom.  Freedom from religion.  Freedom to make your self really
>> useful, instead of a fake, Religion Inc. serving "purpose".
>> "Religious in construction"?  I don't think so, not for many anyway.  But
>> more importantly, it is not religious in practice.  The path to reality
>> enlightenment is less important than reaching it.
>> sdw
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