[FoRK] Fermi paradox was re: economics / carrying capacity

Eugen Leitl eugen at leitl.org
Fri Oct 30 05:56:34 PDT 2009

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 07:26:04AM -0500, Jeff Bone wrote:

> I think there's a reasonable if small chance that the implications  
> lurking in this present chain of discussion explain the Fermi paradox  
> in a couple of ways.  It could imply the long-term inviability of  
> technological civilization due to fundamental race conditions  
> involving resource economics.  It could also imply that most advanced  

This doesn't strike me as terribly likely, from statistical reasoning

> intelligences eventually realize and understand the limits and  
> constraints on growth processes such that they come to terms with one  
> or more of the fundamental constraints involved, and adapt accordingly  
> in some manner that bounds growth and resource consumption (thereby  
> limiting their detectable "footprint" on the universe.)

You don't need a lot of km^3 of rocks to darken a star,
or to turn it into a FIR blackbody. 
> At some point, perhaps, ethics and physics are aspects of the same  
> thing. :-)

Darwin will tend to take a dim view of long-term stability of
self-limiting behaviour, whatever its origins.
> I do rather doubt it, though.

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