[FoRK] Chart of the Day...

owen at permafrost.net owen at permafrost.net
Mon Jun 7 13:45:33 PDT 2010


On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 01:32:03PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote:
> On 6/7/10 4:54 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 11:27:53PM -0500, Jeff Bone wrote:
>>
>>    
>>> That's what you owe, at present, more or less.
>>>
>>> Time is money.  Money is time.
>>>      
>> Anecdotally I've observed some young people don't see much point
>> into becoming productive members of the society, and being
>> taxed for the sins of their forefathers for their pains.
>> So they more or less consciously choose to become slackers.
>>
>> Can anyone confirm/deny such data points in your field of vision?
>>    
>
> Few of the 18-30 year olds I'm familiar with seem to have any thought of  
> taxes, spending, deficit, etc.  It's not on their radar at all.  They  
> couldn't care less to think about the world at a macro level like that,  
> other than, during the end of the Bush II era: "America sucks because  
> people in other countries hate us, I want to live in another country as  
> an adult."  I've seen various combinations and development paths of:
>
>    * Not ready to build for the future / career.
>    * Want to pursue whatever strikes them as fun or easy regardless of
>      upside / low ceiling.
>    * Dreading spending to many years in school.
>    * End-of-high-school hangover of school of any kind and dreading and
>      not really engaging in college on the first pass.
>    * Want to have fun and explore new freedoms for a while before
>      becoming serious.
>    * Irresistibly drawn, on a daily basis, to hang out and "have fun"
>      (i.e. drink or drive fast) with friends to impress each other and
>      the opposite sex.
>    * Plan to become an entrepreneur instead of going to college, but
>      with little training.
>    * Want to become a rock star or artist but don't think its necessary
>      to learn much formally or work very hard.
>    * Directly attack college but not really have an understanding of
>      what career type might make you happy.
>
> I suppose I knew that teenagers were frequently tone-deaf to most things  
> that adults told them during their childhood-cocoon emergence period.   
> However, being unusually precocious and independent myself in many ways,  
> I have had to drastically adjust my expectations of how much wisdom  
> about the world you can pass on to children directly.  In many ways,  
> they just have to live through mistaken paths to really understand what  
> you have been teaching and warning them about.  I had a few handicaps in  
> terms of the other parent, etc., however it was still annoying.
>
> sdw
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My train of thought went something like this in my younger days - Basically
up to the age of ~ 30 I had routinely scored high enough in school and aptitude
tests (without a lot of effort) that I felt I would just breeze through the rest
of life with the same amount of effort. Around 30ish I got sick of working for
people who seemed like bozos, and that the obvious difference between them and me
was that they worked _harder_. The obvious solution was for me to work harder. Still
waiting for it to actually work, though. 
Owen



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