[FoRK] Malthusian machinations

Eugen Leitl eugen at leitl.org
Tue Jun 15 03:42:29 PDT 2010

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:25:01AM -0500, Jeff Bone wrote:
> On Jun 11, 2010, at 18:40, Sean Conner <sean at conman.org> wrote:
> >
> >   1. We have a lot of coal in this country.  It contains Thorium,
> +1, thorium very good, and *very* small, cheap, and safe Th reactors  
> are essentially a done deal.

You think? I'll believe it when you can buy them as a commercial
product. So far, they're part of the nuclear failure. I don't think
they'll get a second chance. There's no longer time nor money for that.

Ditto fast breeders (and of course the main reason to use
thorium is to run it as a molten salt breeder).
> It is rather costly in terms of inputs to get, but not much more than  
> host coal itself.

There's quite a lot of thorium out there, no need to hunt for
it in strange places. 
> Everybody's picking at this solution or that one... Don't get me  
> wrong, there is no silver bullet.  These are all just tools, no  
> universal hammers.  We will need them all.

One of the reason nuke is so expensive is today's safety requirements.
You can't make them cheap.
> The point has also been made that all these are temporary measures.   
> That is if course true as well.  As are means to control growth of  
> both population and, if possible, expectation.
> Got to keep that gerbil wheel spinning indefinitely.
> $0.02,
> jb
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