[FoRK] Malthusian machinations

Jeff Bone jbone at place.org
Thu Jun 17 06:52:20 PDT 2010

On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:06, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:

> I think there's a great case to be made that energy falls
> under infrastructure, and infrastructure should be
> ideally owned by end users or municipalities,


Ironically, the places that are most in need of this and best- 
postioned politically and economically to make it happen are worst- 
positioned practically.

Dense urbs that built up rather than out fall far below the necessary  
illuminated surface area per capita threshold to meet even present  
demand at present or near-term anticipated yields. And much of the  
available space is already claimed for other "necessary" purposes.

They're in worse shape on this front vs the sub-, ex-, and non-urbs  
than they are even on the food front.  Solar power generation is area- 
based.  Food is volume-based.  You can farm a skyscraper given  
sufficient power and / or possibly clever mirrors and light channels.   
But you don't get much usable illumination sufficient for power  
generation in midtown Manhattan; I'm skeptical that you could do  
enough of the same to eg have vertical / interior sunlight-harvesting  
to meet demand.

Don't get me started on water supply.  There's an elephant in the room  
that nobody is talking much about...  But admittedly a little  
acessible tech goes a long way there.



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