[FoRK] The bee sting theory of poverty
Stephen D. Williams
sdw at lig.net
Mon Jun 28 19:52:40 PDT 2010
On 6/28/10 6:58 PM, Jeff Bone wrote:
> On Jun 28, 2010, at 20:21, "Stephen D. Williams" <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
>> On 6/28/10 10:25 AM, Jeff Bone wrote:
>>> I've mentioned Karelis' book before in conjunction with the
>>> assertion that it's easy to demonstrate the fallacy of diminishing
>>> marginal utility and to illustrate the existence of *different kinds
>>> of utility.* It appears that this somewhat fringe little book is
>>> gaining some popular attention.
>>> I just hope that folks see the flaw; Karelis fails to connect his
>>> premises and intermediate conclusions, with which I agree with
>>> completely and find beautiful and elegant (even if he is even less
>>> quantitative than Keynes)
>> Which do you agree with completely?
> Old post, go fish.
Don't remember? ;-)
>>> with his ultimate conclusions apropos policy implications, with
>>> which I almost completely disagree.
>> The conclusion that people need a baseline of living conditions to
>> get in a rational and productive frame of mind seems reasonable.
> Until you start attempting to define baseline or come up with
> practical mechanisms, then it becomes nonsense.
Exercise for the reader. Or are you declaring it impossible to define?
I've already outlined a lot of elements and don't wish to be redundant.
How about, relative to Karelis' book: Enough of a baseline to resolve
Seems like these should be a good start:
* Clean, safe, & functional living space
* Basic business and exercise acceptable clothing
* Health care
* An education past high school
* Outdoor play / exercise space (parks, trails, sidewalks)
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