[FoRK] The shocking truth about the crackdown on Occupy

Lucas Gonze lucas.gonze at gmail.com
Mon Nov 28 12:11:06 PST 2011


Really nicely articulated, Bolcer.



On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Gregory Alan Bolcer <greg at bolcer.org> wrote:
> I understand your point, but that's related to his statement.  Corporate
> influence and small retailer's influence are not commensurate. Only by the
> wildest stretch of the imagination and a some blurring revisionism can they
> be construed to be what the OWS group is protesting against.  They are
> protesting big corporate influence resulting in favorable tax positions not
> available to others without the influence, hidden government bailouts, crony
> capitalism, overpsending, governmental corruption by way of bribery,
> kickbacks and earmarks, and the lack of economic opportunity because of
> these things.
>
> Everyone agrees on the problems.   You don't get rid of these things by
> giving the very institution that's causing them more authoritarian power and
> money.
>
> Greg
>
> On 11/28/2011 11:18 AM, Gary Stock wrote:
>>
>> Please note that corporate "influence on government" is not the same as
>> corporate "influence on controlling legislation."
>>
>> When it is so obvious that "He who owns the cops, controls the form of
>> speech," the Constitution becomes scarcely relevant. (Presuming it ever had
>> been.)
>>
>> Denying the use of public areas to OWS isn't what created our current
>> Twilight Zone. That freakishness began years ago. A relatively recent case
>> in point:
>>
>>
>> http://news.businessweek.com/article.asp?documentKey=1376-LVDMGO1A74E901-5CG1C7JPCU5J1O688G3J3C73JE
>>
>> "Morgan Stanley was the top borrower with a peak of
>> $107 billion on Sept. 29, 2009. That was eight days
>> after then-CEO John Mack said the firm was
>> “in the strongest possible position.”
>>
>>
>> More on that issue, indexed 38 seconds ago:
>>
>>
>> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-28/secret-fed-loans-undisclosed-to-congress-gave-banks-13-billion-in-income.html
>>
>> On Nov. 26, 2008, then-Bank of America (BAC)
>> <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=BAC:US> Corp.
>> Chief Executive Officer Kenneth D. Lewis wrote to
>> shareholders that he headed “one of the strongest
>> and most stable major banks in the world.” He didn’t
>> say that his Charlotte, North Carolina-based firm
>> owed the central bank $86 billion that day.
>>
>> Serling would've found plenty of material there...
>>
>> GS
>>
>>
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