[FoRK] The shocking truth about the crackdown on Occupy

Gregory Alan Bolcer greg at bolcer.org
Mon Nov 28 12:47:20 PST 2011


Hey thanks!  :-)   They were off the cuff remarks.  I like Gary a lot.  
He's an advisor to my current day-job company.  Speaking of which, 
what're you up to nowadays?

Greg

On 11/28/2011 12:11 PM, Lucas Gonze wrote:
> Really nicely articulated, Bolcer.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Gregory Alan Bolcer<greg at bolcer.org>  wrote:
>> I understand your point, but that's related to his statement.  Corporate
>> influence and small retailer's influence are not commensurate. Only by the
>> wildest stretch of the imagination and a some blurring revisionism can they
>> be construed to be what the OWS group is protesting against.  They are
>> protesting big corporate influence resulting in favorable tax positions not
>> available to others without the influence, hidden government bailouts, crony
>> capitalism, overpsending, governmental corruption by way of bribery,
>> kickbacks and earmarks, and the lack of economic opportunity because of
>> these things.
>>
>> Everyone agrees on the problems.   You don't get rid of these things by
>> giving the very institution that's causing them more authoritarian power and
>> money.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On 11/28/2011 11:18 AM, Gary Stock wrote:
>>> Please note that corporate "influence on government" is not the same as
>>> corporate "influence on controlling legislation."
>>>
>>> When it is so obvious that "He who owns the cops, controls the form of
>>> speech," the Constitution becomes scarcely relevant. (Presuming it ever had
>>> been.)
>>>
>>> Denying the use of public areas to OWS isn't what created our current
>>> Twilight Zone. That freakishness began years ago. A relatively recent case
>>> in point:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://news.businessweek.com/article.asp?documentKey=1376-LVDMGO1A74E901-5CG1C7JPCU5J1O688G3J3C73JE
>>>
>>> "Morgan Stanley was the top borrower with a peak of
>>> $107 billion on Sept. 29, 2009. That was eight days
>>> after then-CEO John Mack said the firm was
>>> “in the strongest possible position.”
>>>
>>>
>>> More on that issue, indexed 38 seconds ago:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-28/secret-fed-loans-undisclosed-to-congress-gave-banks-13-billion-in-income.html
>>>
>>> On Nov. 26, 2008, then-Bank of America (BAC)
>>> <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=BAC:US>  Corp.
>>> Chief Executive Officer Kenneth D. Lewis wrote to
>>> shareholders that he headed “one of the strongest
>>> and most stable major banks in the world.” He didn’t
>>> say that his Charlotte, North Carolina-based firm
>>> owed the central bank $86 billion that day.
>>>
>>> Serling would've found plenty of material there...
>>>
>>> GS
>>>
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