[FoRK] occupy - deliberative democracy

Damien Morton dmorton at bitfurnace.com
Wed Aug 15 09:37:18 PDT 2012


I guess the nice thing about demarchy is that, as opposed to e.g.
delegable proxy voting or your proposal to get rid of capitol hill, no
new technology is required to enable it, no electronic forums, no
electronic voting, no encryption or identity management, etc etc.


On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Gregory Alan Bolcer <greg at bolcer.org> wrote:
> I still like the idea of getting rid of capitol hill altogether and make
> each and every representative stay in their district and use electronic
> voting and collaboration tools--all captured and publicly available for
> review.  That would definitely break the lobbyists and beltway bandits which
> currently are geo-located.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On 8/15/2012 8:10 AM, Damien Morton wrote:
>>
>> Well, the proposed system, demarchy, removes money and influence from
>> the loop, by random selection and possibly, secret votes. Before
>> selection, you don't know who to try and corrupt, and after selection,
>> you cant be sure you have been successful. Actually thats not entirely
>> true - you could try to corrupt an entire deliberative body, but the
>> chance of being caught would be pretty damned high.
>>
>> And, the point of increasing the visibility of those who have served
>> in a demarchy, isnt for them to garner respect, but to ensure that
>> everyone feels that they could be selected - that a demarchy isn't
>> some remote statistical process that almost no-one participates in.
>> Its the governance corollary of the principle that "Not only must
>> Justice be done; it must also be seen to be done."
>>
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