[FoRK] Newsroom score: American Taliban

Gregory Alan Bolcer greg at bolcer.org
Wed Aug 29 09:18:13 PDT 2012

I meant to say "I think there's an endemic concern for voter fraud."

It's based on my own experiences.  In particular the long running issues 
in Garden Grove.  These issues aren't democrat or republican.

I have an informed opinion based on personal experiences and the 
abundance of news stories across multiple news outlets the past 10 years.

I don't feel any shame for people disconnected from me.  In fact, I feel 
quite informed and intellectually honest.

As for the rest of the stuff below, man, you need a good long vacation 
if those are the only two worldviews you can fathom.


On 8/29/2012 8:56 AM, Gary Stock wrote:
> How much more plain must I make this for you?
> I don't read any GOP conspiracy into this.  And, I certainly don't feel
> threatened by an opinion.  I feel threatened by an intent to deceive,
> and ongoing attempts to grant such deception total control over our
> society and government.
> When you make a statement as multiply absurd as this:
> | I think there's a endemic concern for voter fraud.
> ...you reveal yourself as uninformed (about ~actual~ voter fraud).  Or,
> if you ~are~ informed, then deceptive (about what ~you~ truly "think").
> Or, some despicable and selective melange of both failures, exploiting a
> self-imposed "concern" manufactured and fertilized to provide plausible
> denial to a range of liars in the GOP.
> Only uninformed people would accept such a claim about voter fraud.
> Among informed people, only GOP lackeys would defend the notion that you
> ~do~ think what you ~claim~ to "think."  (And even then, they don't
> ~believe~ you think it; they simply realize "Oh, I gotta defend Greg's
> assertion as valid, because it's conservative dogma and we need it to
> beat the [name hated social entity here].")
> Either alternative is deeply disturbing.  And both are beneath you.
> That policy -- of lying flat out, without regard for facts -- is now
> being publicly acknowledged by GOP operatives.  Is there no shame?  Have
> YOU no shame?
> Fuck, man.  It doesn't matter which side does that shit.  People are fed
> UP with it.  Leave that shit to professional liars.  Please fucking STOP
> pretending that shit.
> GS
> On 8/29/12 10:14 AM, Gregory Alan Bolcer wrote:
>> Thanks, Gary.  I merely read SDW's post and responded with my own
>> personal opinion.
>> If you are reading some GOP conspiracy into that, you have problems
>> bigger than feeling politically threatened by my opinion, my friend.
>> Greg
>> On 8/29/2012 6:42 AM, Gary Stock wrote:
>>> I suspect it was obvious to everyone else, Greg:  when confronted over
>>> GOP distortions of reality, both you and the GOP invoke even ~greater~
>>> distortions of reality.
>>> Perhaps the difference is that the GOP has began acknowledging that
>>> policy.
>>> GS
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