[FoRK] Newsroom score: American Taliban
gstock at nexcerpt.com
Wed Aug 29 09:23:05 PDT 2012
What I need is a vacation from people who lie to defend lying.
On 8/29/12 12:18 PM, Gregory Alan Bolcer wrote:
> I meant to say "I think there's an endemic concern for voter fraud."
> It's based on my own experiences. In particular the long running
> issues in Garden Grove. These issues aren't democrat or republican.
> I have an informed opinion based on personal experiences and the
> abundance of news stories across multiple news outlets the past 10 years.
> I don't feel any shame for people disconnected from me. In fact, I
> feel quite informed and intellectually honest.
> As for the rest of the stuff below, man, you need a good long vacation
> if those are the only two worldviews you can fathom.
> On 8/29/2012 8:56 AM, Gary Stock wrote:
>> How much more plain must I make this for you?
>> I don't read any GOP conspiracy into this. And, I certainly don't feel
>> threatened by an opinion. I feel threatened by an intent to deceive,
>> and ongoing attempts to grant such deception total control over our
>> society and government.
>> When you make a statement as multiply absurd as this:
>> | I think there's a endemic concern for voter fraud.
>> ...you reveal yourself as uninformed (about ~actual~ voter fraud). Or,
>> if you ~are~ informed, then deceptive (about what ~you~ truly "think").
>> Or, some despicable and selective melange of both failures, exploiting a
>> self-imposed "concern" manufactured and fertilized to provide plausible
>> denial to a range of liars in the GOP.
>> Only uninformed people would accept such a claim about voter fraud.
>> Among informed people, only GOP lackeys would defend the notion that you
>> ~do~ think what you ~claim~ to "think." (And even then, they don't
>> ~believe~ you think it; they simply realize "Oh, I gotta defend Greg's
>> assertion as valid, because it's conservative dogma and we need it to
>> beat the [name hated social entity here].")
>> Either alternative is deeply disturbing. And both are beneath you.
>> That policy -- of lying flat out, without regard for facts -- is now
>> being publicly acknowledged by GOP operatives. Is there no shame? Have
>> YOU no shame?
>> Fuck, man. It doesn't matter which side does that shit. People are fed
>> UP with it. Leave that shit to professional liars. Please fucking STOP
>> pretending that shit.
>> On 8/29/12 10:14 AM, Gregory Alan Bolcer wrote:
>>> Thanks, Gary. I merely read SDW's post and responded with my own
>>> personal opinion.
>>> If you are reading some GOP conspiracy into that, you have problems
>>> bigger than feeling politically threatened by my opinion, my friend.
>>> On 8/29/2012 6:42 AM, Gary Stock wrote:
>>>> I suspect it was obvious to everyone else, Greg: when confronted over
>>>> GOP distortions of reality, both you and the GOP invoke even ~greater~
>>>> distortions of reality.
>>>> Perhaps the difference is that the GOP has began acknowledging that
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