[FoRK] Newsroom score: American Taliban

Lucas Gonze lucas.gonze at gmail.com
Wed Aug 29 14:07:13 PDT 2012

I think she did vote absentee. That's right.

I think the place where Democrats and Republicans differ on this is
not the principle of whether vote fraud is acceptable. The questions
are about the optimal balance of false positives and false negatives,
and I believe that's where your comments here are going.

One part of this conversation that's worth exploring is the dividing
line where Democrat/Republican reality filters yield different results
and where we see the same things.

The Democrat filter says that voter fraud is insignificant and the
number of legit voters who would be disenfranchised is significant.
The Republican filter yields the opposite reality.

Democrats believe the disenfranched voters would have voted
Democratic. Here's a question for Republican-leaners: do you agree
that the lost votes would have been Democratic,  or do you think there
are no lost votes? (Or is there a third option)?

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Gregory Alan Bolcer <greg at bolcer.org> wrote:
> She absolutely, positively had a right to vote.
> She also could vote absentee as she's already registered and has an address
> of record.
> So independent of voter id laws, according to the arguments put forth in
> this thread, given the diminutive number of people in her situation, it's
> okay to disenfranchise them?
> I don't think so.  I think people that are eligible to vote should be
> afforded every right to do so.  I think people who vote who aren't eligible
> to do so are an affront to everyone who does and should be weeded out.
> Let me ask a different question.  How many innocent people should go to
> prison to insure that guilty people pay for their crimes?
> Greg
> On 8/29/2012 1:13 PM, Lucas Gonze wrote:
>> My mom didn't have a driver's license or passport for the last ten
>> years of her life. She didn't drive or travel, and going to the DMV
>> was beyond her ability.
>> When she moved out of home, right at the end of her life, she had to
>> get on a plane, and that required a government ID that would also have
>> qualified her to vote. To make it happen I flew from California to
>> Maryland to take her to the DMV for a non-drivers license, rented a
>> van and wheelchair, went to her house, escorted her to the desk at the
>> DMV, brought her home again.
>> With voter ID requirements that's what it would have taken for her to
>> be able to vote.
>> Before retirement she worked as an aide to a couple members of
>> Congress, and her vote was well reasoned to an extreme.
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