[FoRK] Newsroom score: American Taliban

Stephen D. Williams sdw at lig.net
Wed Aug 29 22:59:21 PDT 2012

I was convinced the other day. Registered demarchy.us.


On 8/29/12 1:20 PM, Damien Morton wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Marty Halvorson <marty at halvorson.us> wrote:
>> SDW wrote:
>> "will a more accurate vote (poll of the enfranchised) be accomplished with
>> or without the new voter ID laws?"
>> With voter ID.  As anyone knows, most voters don't have a clue about who or
>> what they're voting for.  If a voter ID is required those who want to cast a
>> reasoned vote will get an ID.  Those who don't, won't.
> Nice undercurrent of elitism there. Anyone unable to get a Voter ID is
> too dumb to vote anyway.
> Its worth reposting this
> http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/08/19/rundle-you-call-this-democracy-its-time-to-start-again/#comment-92222
> "By maximizing the number of electors to whom candidates must present
> their messages, universal suffrage maximizes the cost of successful
> candidacy and therefore maximizes the influence of money on the
> selection of our legislators."
> "universal suffrage MINIMIZES the influence of each voter on the
> outcome, and thereby makes it rational to be ignorant. If you are one
> of (say) 100,000 voters in one of 100 electorates, your probability of
> influencing the outcome is so small that it is not rational to invest
> any time to become a well-informed voter."
> "If we want democracy instead of plutocracy, we must eliminate the
> cost of taking the message to the voters. How? By bringing the voters
> to the message! For each election, in each electorate, invite a random
> sample of the enrolled voters to gather in one place (or one video
> conference). Pay them generously for their time, so that they can
> easily accept the invitation. Let them listen to the candidates and
> cross-examine the candidates over a period of several days. Then let
> them vote as an electoral college — choosing the candidate(s) that the
> entire enrolled electorate would have chosen if it had heard the same
> arguments."

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