[FoRK] Epic Fail - security fundamentals

Gregory Alan Bolcer greg at bolcer.org
Tue Jan 15 09:41:35 PST 2013

My wife's vanpool car locks any time after you start the ignition, even 
if you are just starting it up to turn on the heater in 32F socal 
weather.  You have to roll down the window partially so that you can 
unlock it by reaching in, or else it's AAA baby.

Her other car auto-locks and unlocks when you put it in drive or park. 
I turned all that off.  At least they give you a complicated setting to 
do it.

I remember the fork post about the car thief in the UK.  Some car 
company advertised their new security with a live demonstration.  The 
thief kicked the front bumper hard enough to deploy the airbag which 
unlocked the doors (good for saving your life, bad for saving your car) 
and drove off with it.  I don't have time to find the link, so homework 
left up to the reader...


On 1/15/2013 9:20 AM, Stephen Williams wrote:

> A number of cars assume that using an internal door handle implies an
> intent to unlock.  I've rented cards that did that.  Some old car I've
> been in did it mechanically too.
> My Voyager minivan auto-locks at 20mph.  Seems like a good feature.
> Except that it occasionally kicks in for some reason even in park. When
> I was moving furniture to Santa Barbara for my daughter several years
> ago, when it was completely packed, I stopped along side the highway.
> Something had shifted, so I left the vehicle running while I readjusted
> things.  As soon as I closed the door, the vehicle decided to lock all
> doors.  Luckily, on the sliding doors, it accomplishes that with 4 big
> contacts and one of those wasn't contacting well that day so that door
> didn't lock.  Otherwise, I would have had a fun time flagging someone
> down to get someone to open the running vehicle where my cell phone was.
> Now, I reflexively leave a window down whenever leaving a vehicle
> running for a moment.
>> (Yes, I know what you mean)
> sdw
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