[FoRK] Women With Both High Math and Verbal Ability Appear Less Likely to Choose Science Careers Because Their Dual Skills Confer More Career Options

Lucas Gonze lucas.gonze at gmail.com
Mon Apr 8 15:44:25 PDT 2013


Which opens the question of why women usually see STEM work as so
unpleasant. Why wouldn't they seek it out just for the fun of it?

I mean this sincerely.


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Stephen D. Williams <sdw at lig.net> wrote:

> On 4/8/13 2:06 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 02:01:27PM -0700, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/8/2013 1:52 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>>>
>>>  http://www.news.pitt.edu/**women_STEM<http://www.news.pitt.edu/women_STEM>
>>>>
>>>> Women With Both High Math and Verbal Ability Appear Less Likely to
>>>> Choose
>>>> Science Careers Because Their Dual Skills Confer More Career Options
>>>>
>>> Is this not also true of men who have both high verbal and math skills?
>>>
>> Probably. I would like to see similar studies done on that.
>>
>>  I wonder what careers in particular they choose instead of science. I
>>> assume they are careers that pay better.
>>>
>> Probably.
>>
>
> Careers that seem to "pay" better: More prestige, flash, popular
> imagination, excitement, etc.  Look at sports, musicians, artists: A few
> make a lot, most are doing something else to make a living, possibly having
> failed to prepare for another career.
>
> The core problem is the perception vs. reality vs. probability gap,
> coupled with the technology, cultural, and economic trends.  People make
> poor choices.  The government and other organizations make poor choices
> too, canceling research and development while not otherwise supporting
> people in those fields who then scatter to some other pursuit, therefore
> being unavailable when the next need arises.
>
>
>
>>  In that case, why are we trying to convince women to choose lower paying
>>> careers?
>>>
>> Probably because we want to insult their intelligence.
>>
>>  Maybe the problem is actually whether this society (in particular US
>>> society) values science as it ought to?
>>>
>> Indeed. Unfortunately, feedback to that is considerably delayed.
>> And the culprits will lack the mental wherewhithal to make the
>> connection, or, rather, they expect that nobody else will make
>> the connection, in time.
>>
>
> sdw
>
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