[FoRK] Women With Both High Math and Verbal Ability Appear Less Likely to Choose Science Careers Because Their Dual Skills Confer More Career Options

Lucas Gonze lucas.gonze at gmail.com
Mon Apr 8 16:16:40 PDT 2013


Do women make more?

I'm not asking whether women make the same as men in a given job, I'm
asking whether women gravitate towards higher paying jobs.


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Reza B'Far (Oracle) <reza.bfar at oracle.com>wrote:

> Or, may be that being able to understand what smart people do and sell it
> pays more than building it.  I think sales people or people that sit
> between engineering/sciences and sales people make a lot more money than
> the creators... just look at industries like petro-chemicals, pharma, etc.
>
>
> On 4/8/13 3:30 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote:
>
>> On 4/8/13 2:06 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 02:01:27PM -0700, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/8/2013 1:52 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  http://www.news.pitt.edu/**women_STEM<http://www.news.pitt.edu/women_STEM>
>>>>>
>>>>> Women With Both High Math and Verbal Ability Appear Less Likely to
>>>>> Choose
>>>>> Science Careers Because Their Dual Skills Confer More Career Options
>>>>>
>>>> Is this not also true of men who have both high verbal and math skills?
>>>>
>>> Probably. I would like to see similar studies done on that.
>>>
>>>  I wonder what careers in particular they choose instead of science. I
>>>> assume they are careers that pay better.
>>>>
>>> Probably.
>>>
>>
>> Careers that seem to "pay" better: More prestige, flash, popular
>> imagination, excitement, etc.  Look at sports, musicians, artists: A few
>> make a lot, most are doing something else to make a living, possibly having
>> failed to prepare for another career.
>>
>> The core problem is the perception vs. reality vs. probability gap,
>> coupled with the technology, cultural, and economic trends. People make
>> poor choices.  The government and other organizations make poor choices
>> too, canceling research and development while not otherwise supporting
>> people in those fields who then scatter to some other pursuit, therefore
>> being unavailable when the next need arises.
>>
>>
>>>  In that case, why are we trying to convince women to choose lower paying
>>>> careers?
>>>>
>>> Probably because we want to insult their intelligence.
>>>
>>>  Maybe the problem is actually whether this society (in particular US
>>>> society) values science as it ought to?
>>>>
>>> Indeed. Unfortunately, feedback to that is considerably delayed.
>>> And the culprits will lack the mental wherewhithal to make the
>>> connection, or, rather, they expect that nobody else will make
>>> the connection, in time.
>>>
>>
>> sdw
>>
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