[FoRK] looking for a secure dumbphone

Stephen Williams sdw at lig.net
Sun Jun 2 19:38:42 PDT 2013

On 6/2/13 5:39 PM, Ken Meltsner wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Bill Kearney <wkearney99 at hotmail.com>wrote:
>> Pfft, given the locale, it's a surprise to hear the cops hadn't shot any
>> innocent bystanders in the process.
>> There's nothing to be done when someone behind the wheel feels compelled
>> to put everyone else at risk by their actions.  The solution isn't to just
>> 'not chase'.
> Actually, it is.  Many municipalities have severely restricted the use of
> high-speed chases, relying instead on nail strips and other ways to capture
> criminals in flight.
> It's not always effective, but there is strong support for "evidence-based
> policing," even though this is at least as threatening to police egos as
> evidence-based medicine has been to doctors'.

Aye.  There is no excuse.  Police have radios, cameras, etc.  They could easily develop or have developed various tracking 
methods. Call ahead to other officers.  Temporarily freeze all traffic lights and close gates, tunnels, and bridges in the path 
of travel.  Fire a goo-soaked GPS/celluar tracker to stick to a car.  Activate a helicopter / building / UAV camera-based 
tracker.  (You could make use of Shot Tracker, which is already in place in much of the Bay Area, to launch a UAV to an 
intersection.  Fire two blanks precisely a certain time apart to signal 'come track'.  Vary the time to avoid spoofing.)  Or 
just wait for their next chance to resolve things peacefully.

Creating a pair of deadly missiles through densely populated areas A) is lazy, lame, and stupid, B) shows they don't respect the 
traffic laws they otherwise are aggressive about ticketing others for, and C) is major abuse of public trust.  A pair of out of 
control vehicles could easily kill 50+ people in seconds in a city. Either change the policies and laws now or do it after you 
kill the 8th grade class visiting from Peoria.

If you're chasing the Boston Marathon bomber or other would-be mass murder, go for it; the trade off is worth it.  Chasing 
someone for speeding, drugs, alcohol, or even robbing without actual violence, then, unless you're talking an open highway 
chase, the cop should be charged with a crime or otherwise reprimanded in many cases.  Even if the cop feels they can operate 
the vehicle safely enough, they should assume someone stupid enough to commit a crime is unlikely to be as competent.

> Ken


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