[FoRK] Dr. Ron Paul and his pitch concerning the new National ID system.

Damien Morton dmorton at bitfurnace.com
Mon Jun 17 06:16:52 PDT 2013


Australia has no "national ID" system, unless it has introduced one
recently and I missed it.

Note that the lack of a National ID system is hardly an impediment to
national scale data surveillance. c.f. Snowden et al


On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Noon Silk <noonslists at gmail.com> wrote:

> The argument is IMHO quite bad. Almost every country has a National ID in
> the form of drivers license and/or passport. It is hardly tyrannical.
>
> The problem isn't a National ID per se, it's surely the particular
> implementation (to me anything with biometric in it is patently bad, among
> other things), so the whole tone of this argument is just terrible.
>
> For example, a proper national ID is probably a great thing, with suitable
> privacy protections put in place; surely this should be the focus of the
> discussion, instead of whining about "american liberty".
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:57 PM, <mdw at martinwills.com> wrote:
>
> > >From an email sent to me by Dr. Ron Paul (I already recognize it is a
> plea
> > from the right-wing so please don't flame.).  Corroborates the recent
> > Guardian article stating that the U.S. Government is now viewing it's
> > citizens as the enemy and they need to prevent their uprising:
> >
> >
> > "The vote on the new National ID system may take place as soon as NEXT
> > WEEK.
> >
> > Already, Barack Obama's snoop-state insiders at the NSA have a massive
> > database full of BILLIONS of emails, phone records, and Internet usage of
> > American citizens.
> >
> > Imagine all of that information being tied to a tamper-proof, National ID
> > Card with biometric tracking technology that EVERY American is required
> to
> > own and carry.
> >
> > It sounds like something out of George Orwell's 1984.
> >
> > But without your IMMEDIATE action, I'm afraid this Orwellian nightmare
> > will be a harsh reality for every man, woman, and child in America.
> >
> > The battle over a National ID Card set to occur in the U.S. Senate next
> > week is one of the most critical fights we've faced in years.
> >
> > The outcome of this fight could determine whether America turns back
> > toward Liberty - or continues down a slide toward full-scale tyranny.
> >
> > Based on the recent revelations that Barack Obama's National Security
> > Agency (NSA) has been snooping through the emails and phone records of
> > millions of Americans each and every day, I'm convinced a National ID
> Card
> > is the statists' crown jewel.
> >
> > You see, the NSA has been gathering audio, video, email, photographic,
> and
> > Internet search usage of Americans who use major providers such as
> > Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Apple, and Yahoo.
> >
> > Their ultimate goal is an America where federal bureaucrats can track our
> > every move.
> >
> > And the biometric tracking technology contained within the over 800-page
> > "Immigration Reform" monstrosity would allow them to do just that. "
> >
> > See attached video:
> >
> > 'http://chooseliberty.org/nationalidcardsb.aspx?pid=0616b'
> >
> >
> >
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