[FoRK] what to do with the PRISM database

Eugen Leitl eugen at leitl.org
Thu Jul 11 05:46:37 PDT 2013

On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 08:14:46AM -0400, Damien Morton wrote:

> That's classical Police State stuff.  Lets assume the user's of PRISM put

Yes, and it still works. Today, much better due to superior
sigint: earlier warning for phase change approaching, and you
have full realtime tracking on key targets. You need a good
story to prevent outrage, which can be fabricated, possibly 
via a false flag operation. Total incarceration rate is already 
higher than during Stalin's purges, adding 0.1% or less is not 
going to make a large difference.

The high incarceration rate in the US creates a potentially
mobilizable cohort of angry people with an axe to grind 
towards the establishment, and ability to dish out violence. 
There is also enough arms in the general population and sufficient 
numbers of veterans who can raid depots and put results to good use,
if sufficiently motivated.

> their billy clubs down, and restrict themselves to more subtle effectors,
> maybe making certain phone calls fail to connect, or delaying delivery of
> certain messages.

That's useful for an early phase. Before your targets can
move and spread warning you bag them in the wee hours.

In general ability to selective disrupt communication 
will generate a lot of alarm if demostrated, so only

Same thing with the hypothetical ability to break some 
cryptosystems considered strong today. You may collect 
intelligence, but not act on it without showing your

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