[FoRK] A Thrive/Survive Theory Of The Political Spectrum

Stephen D. Williams sdw at lig.net
Sun Feb 22 13:46:06 PST 2015

On 2/22/15 12:29 PM, J. Andrew Rogers wrote:
>> On Feb 22, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Reese <howell.r at inkworkswell.com> wrote:
>> If you favor choice, why are you cavilling? If you really favor choice,
>> your default position is to demur and withhold judgement on the reasons
>> others might choose. But that isn't what you are doing here, is it?
> There is a contingent of pro-choice people who (correctly) see a significant moral and game-theoretic hazard to abortion itself. Nonetheless, the legal hazards of ascribing full personhood to a fetus are deemed to create even larger systemic problems than allowing abortion. Generally, people that put this level of intellectual rigor into their opinion come down as pro-choice, not because they support abortion per se but because it minimizes the aggregate adverse consequences for a problem with no optimal solution at a system level.
> It is not a religious argument but a pragmatic calculus to optimize outcomes. I have met many rationalist atheists that seem to end up in this camp. They do not support abortion but determine that prohibition likely has even worse consequences. As a matter of policy then, the optimal solution is to try to minimize the occurrence of situations with no good outcomes.


Additionally, "intelligent life with human-like experience" doesn't occur until much later stages of development.  That seems like a 
reasonable threshold for uncomfortableness.

Everything else is confused emotion, supernatural mumbo jumbo, and ick factor, not a good basis for decision making.


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