[FoRK] Atom vs. JSON? Re: Microsoft gets a new religion: Visual Studio Core, aka Atom

Stephen D. Williams sdw at lig.net
Sat May 2 17:02:55 PDT 2015

Yes.  It is interesting that they apparently decided to start over with a more or less standard platform, presumably adding their 
proprietary and semi-proprietary modules, like .NET support.

It's not too surprising that the core of something like this is Node, since Javascript has won the browser and a lot of the server 
war while letting everyone save face more or less.  But it is surprising that they would be able to make that decision on an engine 
based on Chromium.  That must have been a lot to swallow.


On 5/2/15 4:33 PM, Ken Meltsner wrote:
> It's good news, I think.  Of the three mainstream IDE's I've used,
> Visual Studio has been the best for the "complete a simple project"
> task.  (Netbeans second and Eclipse third, IMHO).  One more step in
> the Microsoft's progression from specialized, proprietary technologies
> to industry-standard, often open source ones.
> With my legacy software hat on, it seems to me that someone up high
> has decided Microsoft's future lies, in part, in "opening up" their
> tools and products to "unlock their value."  The former is certainly
> needed -- more than one major company I talked to in my job search has
> tied their future to an almost completely OSS stack -- but the latter
> may be somewhat wishful thinking.  Not that Microsoft doesn't have
> unique and valuable technologies (cf. LINQ and their whole Entity
> approach to databases), I'm just not sure they can actually make any
> money doing this given that they weren't making a lot of money (or
> any, according to some) on their tools when Microsoft's products were
> almost entirely closed source.
> My opinion may have been formed working for a company famous for its
> legacy software (a euphemism that has become a dysphemism), but the
> battle is no longer to beat your traditional commercial competitors
> but to be relevant at all in a containerized open source world.
> Ken Meltsner
> Ken Meltsner
> On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Emma Humphries <ech at emmah.net> wrote:
>>> On May 2, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar <drernie at radicalcentrism.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>> On May 1, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Stephen D. Williams <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
>>>> Atom is taking over.  Well, eventually, some rough edges so far.
>>> Really?  I thought Atom had been mostly killed by JSON.  Am I missing something?
>> Atom’s also the name of GitHub’s chrome based editor: https://atom.io
>> I’m trying out Studio Code this week, needs a setting to recognize vim keystrokes. :)
>> Cheers,
>> — Emma
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