[FoRK] The Great Prohibition - Title IX craziness

Stephen D. Williams sdw at lig.net
Tue Jun 2 09:51:44 PDT 2015

Russian often sounds like English played backwards to me, but I also sometimes pull out words that seem very clear.  Fun how 
handling many dialects and torturing of English plus bits of other languages allows you to hear things more flexibly.  I often act 
as interpreter (at least of tortured English) in groups.  A couple years ago I found that I could read a Portugese technical paper 
just fine based on my smatterings of various languages that I kinda sorta know.  I'm still pretty feeble on the foreign language 
capability scale, but I sort of don't think of things as different languages so much anymore, more like different styles.

Back to learning Kanji.  Some of them are funny, although some of that is medievally crude.  Even more funny that native Chinese / 
Japanese speakers generally don't know anything about the etymology of most Kanji, even obvious ones like "mother".  That one is so 
obvious, I find it funny that it is not obvious to them, even without being taught.  One friend seemed uncomfortable when I pointed 
it out, so maybe it is modesty-based pseudo ignorance, although I don't see how you can maintain that about things so plain in a 
language.  In Japanese, the word for "princess" is "prince's behind" since she always walks behind the prince.  The word for "ticket 
booth" or "ticket window" is "little old lady in a house".


On 6/2/15 9:34 AM, Damien Morton wrote:
> It turns out English and Russian are connected by Indo European.
> Indo European "Verkh" - meaning mountain or cliff
> becomes....
> Russian root "Bereg" or "Berkh" - meaning "to protect" (note: Russians are
> often unaware of the roots of their language and will say, there is no word
> "Bereg" or "Berkh" in their language - ask them to think of words
> containing that root, and they will come up with a few and be amazed at the
> similarity in meanings).
> German "Berg" - meaning mountain
> English "Verge", "Virgin"
> The trick is learning how to morph the pronounciations.
> Im finding that the poetic connections between the meanings helps me with
> memorising the vocabulary.
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Stephen D. Williams <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
>> I was surprised to learn a while back that German and Hindi are so close,
>> as Sanskrit was an ancestor to both.  Many words are close or even the
>> same.  The example mentioned at the time was luft.
>> http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/closeness-of-the-indo-germanic-language-family-is-not-just-heritage-its-a-mandate-and-assignment-for-us/
>> Quite a complicated history:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples
>> sdw
>> On 6/2/15 8:41 AM, Damien Morton wrote:
>>> Nothing so well planned as "5 Flags Style".
>>> As an embassy kid, I grew up on the move and am well adapted to the
>>> lifestyle.
>>> I am reasonably good with languages, and experienced in inter-cultural
>>> relations.
>>> Mind you, I had an amazingly good time in Montreal recently - French is my
>>> second language, and its a wonderful town, and refreshing to be around
>>> people of the a similar culture and language as mine (Australian).
>>> A note of languages - learning Indo-European (a 6000 year old dead
>>> language) is more useful than latin.
>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com> wrote:
>>>   On 2 Jun 2015 1:08 am, "Damien Morton" <dmorton at bitfurnace.com> wrote:
>>>>> Perpetual Traveller is me.
>>>> 5 Flag Theory style? :)
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