[FoRK] geopolitics of low oil prices

Gregory Alan Bolcer greg at bolcer.org
Fri Jan 15 12:26:04 PST 2016


On 1/12/2016 4:28 PM, Ken Meltsner wrote:
> The cool part will be putting yourself under version control so that
> you can choose whether to merge in changes or whether you need to
> revert back to a "known good" state.  The hard part will be when you
> accidentally break the build.
> Ken Meltsner
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Joseph S. Barrera III <joe at barrera.org> wrote:
>> And what do we do with the excess bodies on this planet? Sounds like a
>> nightmare.
>> And uploading is a non-starter. The uploaded is not you. If you're happy
>> with a copy of yourself existing, then sure, fine. If I've about to die, I
>> don't really care if someone creates a copy of me. My copy will be
>> thrilled, I guess. (Simple thought experiments: (1) someone creates a copy
>> of you when you are still alive. (2) someone creates 10 copies of you.)
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Stephen D. Williams <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
>>> There will be a line.  If you make it to that line in reasonable shape, it
>>> will be possible to start leaping ahead, or rather leaping back in terms of
>>> body age. Whether that happens much, how much it costs, who is allowed or
>>> tries to stop it (religio-freakout driven geri-terrorists (geri-terries?),
>>> of course), what the early adopter downsides are, how philosophy /
>>> psychology / economics evolve to handle it, all of that is up in the air.
>>> Medically, it is already happening.
>>> The line's a come'n.  Be ready to make a break for it boys and girls.
>>> Start your training here:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Fire_%28novel%29
>>> Are you bright green?
>>> And that's before we even consider uploading to wet or dry hardware, which
>>> seems more likely than ever.  Unless we seriously devalue individuals in
>>> some sense, which also might happen. Perhaps you only get to upload as a
>>> collective, Borg-style, when you assemble enough critical mass of value,
>>> experience, etc. What's your denom?  (A denom of 1, i.e. 1/1, means you get
>>> to upload with full integrity.  A denom of 10 means you get 1/10th of an
>>> upload presence.)
>>> sdw
>>> On 1/12/16 3:10 PM, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:
>>>> Just saying that I have no expectations of living to 200.
>>>> (And if I did, shit, I'll have to work until I'm 140 to be able to
>>>> retire...)
>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Stephen D. Williams <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
>>>> On 1/12/16 2:18 PM, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Stephen D. Williams <sdw at lig.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> We're going to be living in magical worlds
>>>>>> "We", but not us.
>>>>>> Many of us are within a few miles of the epicenters of magical devices,
>>>>> self-driving cars, voice recognition, image and object recognition,
>>>>> concept
>>>>> encyclopedias being coupled to deep learning, and all the money anyone
>>>>> would need to make it all happen...
>>>>> We're close to a time when a summer of code project could edit a genome
>>>>> to
>>>>> create a new animal or store data or make an enhancement using CRISPR for
>>>>> $100.  Send a message to all of your progeny by editing in a GenomeCode
>>>>> in
>>>>> part of your unused DNA!  Show stripes on your skin whenever you are on
>>>>> an
>>>>> odd milli-lay line (requires the GenomePS module and service).  Create
>>>>> glowing saliva, but only when you kiss your betrothed!  What will you
>>>>> think
>>>>> of?  (For your safety, all DNA sequences reset at the end of the
>>>>> project.)
>>>>> The magic is out there.  It's just not yet evenly distributed.
>>>>> Of course, as always, one cycle's magic is the next cycle's ho hum
>>>>> standard engineering techniques.  Like AI (AGI really), it's only magic
>>>>> when we don't know how to do it yet.
>>>>> sdw
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