[FoRK] Java plugins are now officially dead
Stephen D. Williams
sdw at lig.net
Mon Feb 22 16:18:29 PST 2016
On 2/22/16 2:27 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote:
> I tried to use that exception mechanism and it wouldn't work. Try to play the Processing sketches here, even with exceptions:
> Doesn't work for me for Firefox or Chrome on MacOSX. For a while, now long ago, Java applets had a lot of advantages. Once
> hardened, applets were weak but at least existing applets were useful. Now users have to jump through hoops to use anything not
> signed properly (i.e. everything legacy). That takes if from pretty much dying to definitely dying.
> Since it is being strongly challenged on the backend (Node, Go, C++), the corporate momentum and Android are the only strong areas
> On the other hand, GWT has been updated recently if you really have to have Java everywhere. But you can't do the same things
> with that. There has been no point in applets for a while, now it's over.
> On 2/22/16 7:55 AM, Mark Day wrote:
>> Hi Stephen,
>> Not sure I agree. Looks like there's still a site-based exception mechanism to allow for legacy apps on a case-by-case basis.
>> What would you see as a better way to provide motivation to move to a more-secure model?
>> On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 20:46:06 -0800, "Stephen D. Williams" <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
>>> What a punt, finally giving up on the sandbox apparently. Oracle has now killed browser Java. Limiting running code to that which
>>> we can run historical artifacts.
>>> Even exceptions are added to the Java Control Panel exceptions, which no user will do, it doesn't work.
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