[FoRK] Tesla -- Forget the Model 3, here's where the real money is

Gregory Alan Bolcer greg at bolcer.org
Mon Apr 4 09:58:36 PDT 2016


Just because it's an April Fools joke doesn't mean it's a bad idea.  I'd
love to see it happen.


Greg

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Lucas Gonze <lucas.gonze at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> http://recode.net/2016/04/03/a16z-led-a-3-1-million-round-in-aftermarket-autonomous-car-company-comma-ai/
>
>
> George Hotz is a famed hacker turned software engineer who recently made
> waves <
> http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-george-hotz-self-driving-car/>
> for retrofitting an Acura with homemade software that enabled the otherwise
> standard vehicle to semi-autonomously drive down a highway. Hotz had built
> a semi-autonomous car out of his garage; he planned to do it again en
> masse, and he wanted to take on the likes of Tesla and Google in the
> process.
>
> As it turns out, investors are keen
> <https://medium.com/@cdixon/comma-ai-e62eea5fa8d2#.j8zsvsdgv> to help Hotz
> do just that. Today, Andreessen Horowitz partner Chris Dixon confirmed a
> previous report
> <
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/aarontilley/2016/03/08/george-hotz-comma-ai/#65e8e83d493b
> >
> and announced that the firm was leading a $3.1 million round of funding in
> Hotz’s company, Comma.ai.
>
> In the company’s march to full autonomy, Hotz plans to use the cash
> infusion in his otherwise self-funded company to add a few more engineers
> to his staff of four full-time employees, and to take Comma to launch by
> the end of the year, when he hopes to begin selling an aftermarket
> semi-autonomous kit for under $1000.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Gregory Alan Bolcer <greg at bolcer.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Tesla Gas Conversion Kits announced: release set for 2017, price starts
> at
> > less than a year's worth of gas
> >
> > Here's what you need to know: Kits for Honda, Toyota, and Nissan;
> Combines
> > Battery Walls with Tesla's own Charging and Engine in drop-in
> replacement,
> > Apple's in-Car technology, SpaceX self-driving technology
> >
> >    - By Elon Musk
> >    - on April 1, 2016 11:58 pm
> >    - Email <jordan.golson at theverge.com>
> >    - @ <https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=jlgolson>
> >    therealelonmusk @elonmusk
> >    -
> >
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> > >
> >
> > After ten years of waiting, Tesla has revealed the Model 3, the vehicle
> > that CEO Elon Musk hopes will take the electric car to the masses.  While
> > exciting, the actual car is a sideshow compared to what he let slip this
> > morning while discussing the car off the record.   Tesla is launching in
> > 2017 a complete drop-in system based on their Battery Wall, their
> > self-driving software, and Tesla's own charging and motor system for any
> > 2000-2017 Honda, Toyota, and Nissan.  While some of these automotive
> > vendors do have their own competitive offerings for electric or hybrid
> > motors, the the compatibility, performance, and standardization of a
> single
> > motor brings more power and better charging to each of these vehicles and
> > older ones that still run on traditional gasoline.
> >
> > After the unveiling of the Model 3 last evening at the company's design
> > studio in Hawthorne, California, Tesla CEO Elon Musk turned to talking
> > about his latest project: retroactive conversion using Tesla technology.
> > According to him, the converted cars will deliver at least 215 miles of
> > range with conversions beginning at just the cost of 1 year's worth of
> > gasoline — that's a bold claim, and an important one for Tesla to meet.
> > Musk is "fairly confident" that deliveries will begin by the end of 2017,
> > and "other automakers will not be able to design a better car, new or
> used,
> > without their technologies"  Converting older vehicles is, according to
> > Musk, not where the other manufacturers have been placing their bets.
> >
> > If you missed Elon Musk's Tesla Model 3 reveal, watch the full video here
> > <http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/1/11343874/tesla-model-3-announced-video
> >.
> > See More: Tesla Model 3 in photos
> > <
> >
> http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/1/11342104/tesla-model-3-announcement-photos
> > >
> >
> > *Tesla says they expect more than 130,000 preorders
> > <
> http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/1/11343294/tesla-model-3-115000-preorders>
> > —
> > buyers need to put $1,000 down — have been placed, and that number will
> > continue to rise.*
> >
> > Older Hondas, Toyotas, and Nissans continue to be valuable in the
> > marketplace.  All three of the brands combined make up over 65% of all
> cars
> > on the road since 2000.  The blackmarket for these vehicle parts has
> > continued to rise the past decade and a half also with these cars
> > dominating the 'most stolen cars
> > <
> >
> http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-honda-accord-most-stolen-car-20140814-story.html
> > >'
> > rankings every year.  Elon was quoted as saying, "The plan is simple,
> > practical, and make mincemeat out of the problem overnight."
> >
> > 215 MILES OF RANGE, PLUS SUPERCHARGER SUPPORT In a 10 year old honda for
> > less than a year's worth of gasoline? What's not to like about that?
> >
> > Ass an additional feature, upgraded conversion kits will include both a
> a
> > 15-inch landscape touchscreen inside or a 17-inch portrait touchscreen.
> > Both screens will be provided by Apple, though Apple spokesmen declined
> to
> > go on record. Autopilot hardware is standard and borrowed from their
> SpaceX
> > division, and all safety features will be upgraded automatically.
> > Converting older vehicles to become standardized — "affordably is the
> > important part here," says Musk.
> >
> > *Watch:* *4k race footage of the Tesla Model 3*
> >
> > STARTS AT $35,000
> >
> > The two current Tesla vehicles, the Model S and Model X, are both
> extremely
> > expensive. Even with tax incentives, both cars easily push $100,000. In
> > order for Tesla to sell ten times as many cars as it does now, it needs a
> > much cheaper automobile. That's the main reason Tesla is looking to go
> down
> > market. First with its Model 3, but more importantly with it's existing
> car
> > conversion.  It's the future of the company.
> >
> > [image: Tesla Model 3 Interior]
> >
> > In reaction to the news, the used car spot market on Ebay Motors and
> Carmax
> > spiked overnight with gasoline-based Honda, Toyota, and Nissan cars
> having
> > the largest rise in prices even though conversion kits aren't expected to
> > begin production until late 2017, more than 18 months from now. Tesla
> will
> > happily take your preorder
> > <
> >
> http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11334244/tesla-model-3-pre-orders-begin-australia
> > >
> > for
> > a modest $1,000 down payment or even have a gasoline rebate plan where
> you
> > can make payments on a Tesla owned and financed credit card which takes a
> > portion of your gas purchases and puts it into a Tesla VC fund. Tesla
> plans
> > to more than double the size of its dealership and service network by the
> > end of next year, to sell and take care of all these new and used cars.
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