[FoRK] New Divide in American Death was Re: FoRK Digest, Vol 150, Issue 8

Marty Halvorson marty at halvorson.us
Wed Apr 13 17:29:08 PDT 2016

Stephen Williams:
"There are large swaths of the rural US with socially encouraged dumpth, 
where drinking and smoking and more dangerous pursuits are extremely 
popular. The savvy truly do move away as soon as they can, which 
certainly affects statistics. But that just clarifies the root cause 
that is often hidden in more mixed areas: subcultures that don't value 
education, growth, health, exercise, achievement, and avoidance of 
habitual pitfalls lead directly to poor health and early death. There's 
little that the medical community can do when cultural pressures 
outweigh facts and good advice."

There are other considerations to choosing to live in a rural area. 
e.g., Quiet nights, stars in the sky at night. low crime rates. 
neighbors that care about others but don't interfere (i.e., not self 
righteous), and others.  Considerations in not moving from a rural area 
are:  Family nearby, traditional ways of living (think 
Native-Americans), cost of moving (both emotional and financial), and 
the elephant, land ownership.

By the way, I live in a rural area by choice.  The closest grocery store 
is over 5 miles away, and most of the people working there recognize 
me.  I am also completely surrounded by a Native-American reservation.  
And it's just 17 miles to one the most scientifically driven enterprises 
in the United States (Los Alamos National Laboratories), and 25 miles to 
one of the most liberal cities in the U.S. (Santa Fe).  I suppose all 
that qualifies as a edge case to SDW's thesis, with which I mostly 
agree, other than the blanket statement "The savvy truly do move away as 
soon as they can" which I believe is false considering I have highly 
regarded scientists as neighbors.


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