[FoRK] old favorites
Gregory Alan Bolcer
greg at bolcer.org
Fri Dec 16 16:17:00 PST 2016
Luckily enough I think most people use multiple sources of news. I
think the main complaint is the fake stuff skews the line. In fact, in
social media, most people understand that they are sharing fake news,
but they (90%) forward it anyways for "what if it was true" and "we
don't trust X enough that it might actually be true" and "I wish someone
would look into if this is true".
I think it's a benefit of social media and just part of the process of
working stuff out. Reddit truth squads are better journalists
fact-checkers than anything that the mass media can product. It works
itself out. Few remember that without Little Green Footballs, the
Killian documents would never have been debunked. 
Facebook should buy Reddit for whatever they can pay for it. Snopes is
okay, but they end up answering the wrong question sometimes--seemingly
On 12/16/2016 4:02 PM, Ken Meltsner wrote:
> No, I'm just hoping that when it becomes a form of performance art,
> that will kill it for most people.
> Right now, way too many people believe way too much that they read for
> no other reason than they read it somewhere that they think is
> We're stuck in the uncomfortable period between "they couldn't say it
> if it wasn't true" era where you have to repeat the lies enough to get
> them into reputable media (e.g. Swiftboating) and the "I have to check
> Snopes, etc. before I share that item" era where we treat the front
> page the way most people treat the 10-day weather forecast.
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Stephen D. Williams <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
>> I can see that in the sense that we all laugh about it and nobody takes it seriously, or at least the ones who do are a tiny
>> minority and we can all laugh at them until they start grasping reality better.
>> Like new age crystal gaia mumbo jumbo: Harmless, mildly entertaining in small doses, doesn't hurt anybody measurably. An
>> adolescentish phase to grow out of.
>> I like to think there are a lot of things that people feign believing for various performance-arty reasons, or at least I hope
>> that's the case because the alternative is too depressing.
>> On 12/16/16 3:16 PM, Ken Meltsner wrote:
>>> Peak Fake will be when it is acknowledged as a form of performance
>>> art. (idea stolen from The Jazz by Melissa Scott)
>>> Ken Meltsner
>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Stephen D. Williams <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
>>>> On 12/15/16 4:28 PM, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Gregory Alan Bolcer <greg at bolcer.org>
>>>>>> We have a great example of such news this week in the Yahoo one billion
>>>>>> account hack. Sure, it’s all over the web but it happened in 2013. Are we
>>>>>> really supposed to believe that one billion user records were stolen from
>>>>>> Yahoo and it took three years for somebody to notice???
>>>>> Snark overheard at Google: "Are we really supposed to believe that Yahoo
>>>>> has one billion accounts?"
>>>> Maybe they were mostly fake robo-hotties on all of those fake dating sites.
>>>> We are in the Age Of Fake within the Internet Age right now. When do you predict we will or have reached Peak Fake? Hopefully it
>>>> was 2016 and this election, but we'll see. <snark held>
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