Re: Tivo, Fair Use, Video-in-the-Cloud, and Vidster

From: Stephen Williams (
Date: Fri Sep 03 1999 - 10:16:04 PDT

Jeffrey Kay wrote:
> Interesting thought -- I just looked into the Book PC units. It looks like
> everything I'd want, except that it doesn't seem to have the equivalent of a
> digital output (either optical or coax) so that I can run the audio through
> my regular system. Do you know of anything that supports that? Which USB
> vidcap system do you use? Does it support/have you built the "timer"
> interface to record TV shows? Does your vidcap device have a tuner on it or
> are you using some other tuner?

I've been buying various book PC's from Amptron for several years. The
best unit for AV use is the "DVD" system: it's a book PC with a socket
370 (i.e. Pentium II FPGA/Celeron) w/ DVD drive, floppy, and remote
keyboard/mouse. Without cpu, ram, hd it's about $250. It DOES have
digital audio out, although I haven't played with it. Video out is
great. I use one as my main DVD player.

If they also had a TV tuner built in (I see these PC's coming, one
distributor has an LCD moninitor/computer with video tuner, am/fm, etc.
for $1200 or so) it would be close to a TiVO.

The best USB/parallel video capture has got to be the Dazzle line.


> jeffrey kay <>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gavin Thomas Nicol []
> > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 10:17 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: RE: Tivo, Fair Use, Video-in-the-Cloud, and Vidster
> >
> >
> >
> > > I want to be able to cut-n-paste a segment from a show on
> > my Tivo and
> > > send it to another Tivo user. I want to be able to search other
> > > users' public clip files and trade clips with them. I want to build
> > > up a library, a montage of television absurdity, and punctuate my
> > > discourse with video poignancy and hilarity.
> >
> > I bought a book pc for $169, added some disk, memory, and CPU.
> > With a USB video capture, it's almost as good as a TIVO, and has
> > no fees ;-)
> >
> >

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