From: Jeff Bone (email@example.com)
Date: Mon Jan 31 2000 - 10:47:02 PST
I guess this would be an appropriate thread to plug what I've been working on.
I'm currently involved with (chairman, interim CEO, and investor in) a company
called "clickfeed.com" which has a slightly different take on this. We're
billing ourselves as a "metanews agency," but the focus is slightly different
from the aggregators; we're more focused on collaborative filtering (initially
active, eventually passive) of news and other timely, topical info as well as a
variety of value-adds on top of the filtering.
The initial service is simply a Web-based link referral mechanism, with a
"feed" abstraction that supports publish, subscribe, and a variety of group
security semantics. Imagine FoRK with just the bits (links) and very little
commentary. If you imagine what eGroups is to a single non-eGrouped mailing
list, you can sort of imagine a similar relationship between us and say,
slashdot, or TBTF, or whatever. We're about a couple of weeks from having the
initial site up; if you go there now, there's a "notify me when the service
goes live" page.
I'd love to have FoRKers banging on it as early users; I imagine the feedback
would be quite useful, this is one of the most clueful groups of folks I know
and frankly, the service was designed with folks like us in mind.
Mike Masnick wrote:
> And there's http://www.isyndicate.com/ which has been around for a while
> and the newer http://www.moreover.com/ and plenty more news aggregation
> sites... Plus, there's http://www.geekboys.org/ which I have to mention
> since they actually pull content from Techdirt (which is a little silly as
> the majority of the content there is pulled from elsewhere anyway) as well.
> At 08:27 AM 1/31/00 -0800, Dan Kohn wrote:
> >Of course, http://www.newshub.com has been operating for more than a year,
> >but without XML, has not been sufficiently buzzword-compliant.
> > - dan
> >Daniel Kohn <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>
> >tel:+1-425-602-6222 fax:+1-425-602-6223
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Adam Rifkin -4K [mailto:adam@XeNT.ics.uci.edu]
> >Sent: Friday, 2000-01-28 01:26
> >To: email@example.com
> >Subject: SalonHerringWiredFool.com
> >Well, this is a saucy little foray into unauthorized content syndication
> >by syndicating links instead of full articles:
> >> This web site is not endorsed by, or in any way affiliated with, any of
> >> the publications whose content is linked to.
> >> Salon.Com, Red Herring, and Wired News are trademarks or registered
> >> trademarks of their respective owners.
> >> Fool and The Motley Fool are trademarks of The Motley Fool, Inc.
> >> UserLand is a registered trademark of UserLand Software, Inc.
> >Still, it's a neat form of aggregation... "An experiment in Internet
> >content. Four great story flows, one smart website..."
> > http://www.salonherringwiredfool.com/
> >And of course, we look behind the curtain and there's Dave Winer pulling
> >the strings, using his XML-RPC's to run the show. :)
> >"A thinking-person's web, circa 2000." I love it. Rohit, can we
> >get him to syndicate FoRK so I don't have to wade through all the
> >conversations? :)
> >> About this Site
> >> Welcome to SalonHerringWiredFool.Com. Every hour it shows you the new
> >> stories from four of the leading news sources on the Internet. It's an
> >> experiment, something for investors and thinkers to explore, bookmark,
> >> and use.
> >> Why Salon, Red Herring, Wired News, Motley Fool?
> >> We chose these four sites because they define an interesting audience.
> >> Red Herring and Motley Fool cover the web from a financial viewpoint;
> >> Wired and Salon with a business and cultural view. All four are
> >> interesting and eclectic, are not widely syndicated, are identified with
> >> the Internet, and all four support the new XML standard for content
> >> syndication.
> >> Put together, this is the thinking-person's web, circa 2000 -- an
> >> interesting market, one that new technology makes even more interesting.
> >> How it works
> >> Every hour on the hour, our aggregator reads over 400 news-oriented
> >> sites that participate in the new XML-based web, and merges the new
> >> stories into a database called a "story flow". Each story has a tag that
> >> says which of the sites it came from.
> >> Every time you refresh the home page of this site, we look in the
> >> database to see if any new stories have arrived from the four sites. If
> >> so, we add them to the list, and show it to you.
> >> As a practical matter, new stories will only arrive at the top of the
> >> hour, usually about six or seven minutes after, depending on the time of
> >> day, the number of stories, and the general performance of the Internet,
> >> our ISP, and the ISPs of each of the publications.
> >> You get the original stories
> >> When you click on the links, you go to the official site, you see their
> >> ads, and if there have been updates to the story, or new links, or
> >> reader comments, you see them too. This is how we believe the web should
> >> work.
> >> It's an experiment
> >> At UserLand, the company behind this site, we like to try out new ideas!
> >> So consider this an experiment in web content delivery. We hope you
> >> enjoy this site and find it useful, and please let us know what you
> >> think.
> >> Technology
> >> We want you to understand the technology, if you want to.
> >> Start with the My.UserLand FAQ page.
> >> If you want more info, read up on the UserLand.Com backend in XML.
> >> And if you want to tie into our network of aggregators and affiliates,
> >> it's an open interface, specified in XML-RPC, an emerging standard for
> >> Internet-based distributed computing.
> >> Where do we go from here?
> >> At UserLand, we think this is an important direction, defining audiences
> >> thru combinations of content flows. There are many more combinations to
> >> explore There's enough content to do an automated open source news page,
> >> or a scripting home page, or whatever. More channels are coming online
> >> all the time.
> >> I've started a Discussion Group thread to gather comments and questions.
> >> If you have something to say about this, please let your opionions be
> >> known.
> >> There are lots of entrepreneurial opportunities in XML-based syndication
> >> and aggregation. Our interfaces are open. Let's work together!
> >> Dave Winer
> >> PS: The ads are for position only. We're not charging the advertisers
> >> for these ads.
> >Here's the link to syndicated story flow in XML-RPC:
> >Here's the channel chooser (you need to be a member):
> >Here's the discussion group; apparently it's been up since October 27th:
> >Dave Winer, I salute you.
> >I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're
> >afraid... afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the
> >future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came
> >here to tell how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone,
> >and then show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to
> >show them a world without you. A world without rules or controls,
> >borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go
> >from there is a choice I leave to you.
> > -- The Matrix
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