From: Mike Masnick (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Mon Jan 31 2000 - 10:15:24 PST
And there's http://www.isyndicate.com/ which has been around for a while
and the newer http://www.moreover.com/ and plenty more news aggregation
sites... Plus, there's http://www.geekboys.org/ which I have to mention
since they actually pull content from Techdirt (which is a little silly as
the majority of the content there is pulled from elsewhere anyway) as well.
At 08:27 AM 1/31/00 -0800, Dan Kohn wrote:
>Of course, http://www.newshub.com has been operating for more than a year,
>but without XML, has not been sufficiently buzzword-compliant.
> - dan
>Daniel Kohn <mailto:email@example.com>
>From: Adam Rifkin -4K [mailto:adam@XeNT.ics.uci.edu]
>Sent: Friday, 2000-01-28 01:26
>Well, this is a saucy little foray into unauthorized content syndication
>by syndicating links instead of full articles:
>> This web site is not endorsed by, or in any way affiliated with, any of
>> the publications whose content is linked to.
>> Salon.Com, Red Herring, and Wired News are trademarks or registered
>> trademarks of their respective owners.
>> Fool and The Motley Fool are trademarks of The Motley Fool, Inc.
>> UserLand is a registered trademark of UserLand Software, Inc.
>Still, it's a neat form of aggregation... "An experiment in Internet
>content. Four great story flows, one smart website..."
>And of course, we look behind the curtain and there's Dave Winer pulling
>the strings, using his XML-RPC's to run the show. :)
>"A thinking-person's web, circa 2000." I love it. Rohit, can we
>get him to syndicate FoRK so I don't have to wade through all the
>> About this Site
>> Welcome to SalonHerringWiredFool.Com. Every hour it shows you the new
>> stories from four of the leading news sources on the Internet. It's an
>> experiment, something for investors and thinkers to explore, bookmark,
>> and use.
>> Why Salon, Red Herring, Wired News, Motley Fool?
>> We chose these four sites because they define an interesting audience.
>> Red Herring and Motley Fool cover the web from a financial viewpoint;
>> Wired and Salon with a business and cultural view. All four are
>> interesting and eclectic, are not widely syndicated, are identified with
>> the Internet, and all four support the new XML standard for content
>> Put together, this is the thinking-person's web, circa 2000 -- an
>> interesting market, one that new technology makes even more interesting.
>> How it works
>> Every hour on the hour, our aggregator reads over 400 news-oriented
>> sites that participate in the new XML-based web, and merges the new
>> stories into a database called a "story flow". Each story has a tag that
>> says which of the sites it came from.
>> Every time you refresh the home page of this site, we look in the
>> database to see if any new stories have arrived from the four sites. If
>> so, we add them to the list, and show it to you.
>> As a practical matter, new stories will only arrive at the top of the
>> hour, usually about six or seven minutes after, depending on the time of
>> day, the number of stories, and the general performance of the Internet,
>> our ISP, and the ISPs of each of the publications.
>> You get the original stories
>> When you click on the links, you go to the official site, you see their
>> ads, and if there have been updates to the story, or new links, or
>> reader comments, you see them too. This is how we believe the web should
>> It's an experiment
>> At UserLand, the company behind this site, we like to try out new ideas!
>> So consider this an experiment in web content delivery. We hope you
>> enjoy this site and find it useful, and please let us know what you
>> We want you to understand the technology, if you want to.
>> Start with the My.UserLand FAQ page.
>> If you want more info, read up on the UserLand.Com backend in XML.
>> And if you want to tie into our network of aggregators and affiliates,
>> it's an open interface, specified in XML-RPC, an emerging standard for
>> Internet-based distributed computing.
>> Where do we go from here?
>> At UserLand, we think this is an important direction, defining audiences
>> thru combinations of content flows. There are many more combinations to
>> explore There's enough content to do an automated open source news page,
>> or a scripting home page, or whatever. More channels are coming online
>> all the time.
>> I've started a Discussion Group thread to gather comments and questions.
>> If you have something to say about this, please let your opionions be
>> There are lots of entrepreneurial opportunities in XML-based syndication
>> and aggregation. Our interfaces are open. Let's work together!
>> Dave Winer
>> PS: The ads are for position only. We're not charging the advertisers
>> for these ads.
>Here's the link to syndicated story flow in XML-RPC:
>Here's the channel chooser (you need to be a member):
>Here's the discussion group; apparently it's been up since October 27th:
>Dave Winer, I salute you.
>I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're
>afraid... afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the
>future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came
>here to tell how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone,
>and then show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to
>show them a world without you. A world without rules or controls,
>borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go
>from there is a choice I leave to you.
> -- The Matrix
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