Re: Microsoft Co-opts Java (Was CORBA COM...)

Yobie Benjamin (
Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:02:06 -0700

Ron Resnick wrote:

> >
> >
> > Yobie Benjamin <> writes:
> >
> > > Damn browser based JIT/JVMs from Symantec, Borland, Apple and M$
> are
> > > _all_ shitty.
> >
> > Have you tried IBM's? VisualAge -- the version for Java just came
> out
> > recently. I use the Smalltalk VisualAge for work. I have
> complaints
> > about the interface, but it has some great features.
> >
> >
> Slight correction- VA/Java is in beta, expected GA release in the
> summer. I just got the beta CD 2 days ago (only took 'em about 3 mos
> :-(),
> and haven't played around much. I think I'll refrain from reviewing/
> endorsing it, due to obvious IBM conflict of interest. It is the
> first serious commercial Java tool though to support Beans, RMI
> and other 1.1 goodies, as far as I know.
> Also, if I understood Yobie's complaint, it's his runtime (ie
> browser) Java environments that are giving him heartache, not
> his build time tool. Of course, some of us believe that these
> are eventually merging to become one building/using embedded
> distributed infrastructure, but for the time being there is a
> difference.

Wait before we leave this topic... Biz Section Front Page San Jose Murky
News... M$ is releasing J/Direct which allows Java programmers to write
directly for the Windoze platform ONLY. This is the death of write
once/run anywhere!

> Can we get off the techie talk now, and back to something useful,
> like slippers? Yes, I'm fixated. Yes, I'm retentive. Wanna make
> something of it?
> Ron.

Yobie Benjamin

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