Re: Away WeGo. Wherefore art thou Gnutella?

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From: Dug Song (
Date: Tue May 02 2000 - 10:28:32 PDT

On Tue, 2 May 2000, Tom Whore wrote:

> The protocal is something that is also being disected. Capn Bery is one
> of the leads on this and all his work is open to all to look over and test
> and carry on with. If you go back over the versions of the FAW at wego and
> CApns you will see how the thing was peeled apart.

the gnutella protocol is totally stupid, and lends itself quite well to
abuse. the majority of the traffic is broadcast pings and scattershot
queries. i hope to dawg freenet is better than this.

gnutella net will die the death it deserves, once tools like "gnutsmurf"
(which i haven't released) and other gnutella exploits are generally
available (a single rogue agent can do an impressive amount of damage).

i'm still waiting to see a decent system deployed based on the body of
published research in ad hoc networks and routing protocols. these ad hoc
ad hoc networks just don't cut the mustard.

there are a few systems that fake IP multicast to good effect:

but these still lack the security properties i'd hope to see in such a
system (anonymity, privacy, plausible deniability, etc.).



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