Re: The Armageddon Rag

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From: Tom Whore (
Date: Fri Oct 13 2000 - 17:14:55 PDT

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 wrote:
--]Well, conversely, from some points of view, the human race is a cancer to
--]the earth.

Yes, well all saw the matrix. We have been warned:)-

--]Whatshername, who sat up in that tree for all those months is
--]a good example. She sat up there and got a lot of attention, but in the
--]end, she came down. And so did the tree. The thought process is a dream
--]that emerged from a "realization" that things are fucked up and are only
--]going to get worse.

Nice mindset. So unlike the nazis who just blamed the jews or the greens
who blames corps or the Rebups who blame the Dems and vice versa its lets just kill off the whole species and let nature go its
thing which would be green and loverly and dreamy


Humans are of and from nature, the very same State of Nature that these
folks think will make everythin all peacefull and in balance but which was

Norman coordinate..bleep bleep bleep

--] I'll betcha a beer that I can find at least 10 things
--]that humans have done to screw up their own habitat to your examples of us
--]doing something good for it.

So you want to weigh all things out now and judge the worth of a species ,
killing th em all if they dont meet your required merits.Wowsers.

I bet I can find 10 things your Natural Goddess State OF Grace has done to
itself to destory its own peace.

--]glad that you have a more positive view of the human race and its
--]capability to adapt to its ever-decreasing supply of o2, and its
--]ever-increasing supplies of toxins that we create, but I cannot share that
--]with you.

We have come thru an ice age, floods, volcanos, we have lived in the
harshest of environs with about half the tools and skills we now have to
help us adapt. We have fouht through diasters both natural and man made.
We have lived thru plauges, slavery, crulety, and the mets 1969 season.
We go where there is no o2 and seek to explore the depths of crushing

Through this we have adapted, learned, made tools, and sought to continue
the path towards an unknown and often hostile future.

This is our history. Those who learn from it will do better than the rest.
Those who seek to build up rather than tear down will make that trip tot
he future, as have the countless generations before us.

Those who have sought an end to this journey have failed. Maybe one day
they might stop the journey...but not on my watch.

--] >I dont care if its the nazis (hi godwin) the
--]> letbehinders or whatever they call themselves. If the thouht of a hmanless
--]> world is something they want to go for, cool. Guns are legal in many
--]> places, they can blow thier heds off any time now.
--]Again, you misinterpret what I said. The thought of a humanless planet
--]earth being beautiful is not the same as the thought that everything is so
--]fucked up that suicide is the only answer.

To bring about a humanless earth , other than by off world exodus, would
mean the erradication of humans. I doubt youd be down with that or the
people who support it.

--]How would you know how phoney a 'kiss kiss sisterhood crowd' is? (:

Been there, been around it, am more than apt at spotting and

--]you did, by some chance, get invited to such a gathering, you'd quickly
--]realize that your foot is deeply implanted in your mouth, because there
--]are no such power trips involved (at least not in the circles I swim in).

There are circles that are very much into the power trip, the mock
sisterhood for ends of mind games, ego strokes and the same old same old
bullshit that gets tossed on the penis born.

Yes there are groups of pure honest folk. I am happy to have been, and be,
around folks of this caliber. Atributing this to just women is
a joke though in that it speaks to the power trip of the exclusionist amd
the "me me me" ism of the karma vampires.

Wiccan can be manipulated just as easily as anyother mindset. There is no
magik cure for being human, warts and all. People make honest healing
gatherings, religions and "ways" do not, in my experiance anyway. I dont
care if someones jewish, islamic, wiccan, christian or whathaveyou. If
they deal with me honestly and with love then its good.

Im glad you have not come across the fakars and karma vampires,,
knowingly, in your travel east to west. It would be foolish to think you
never will.

--]> The proof is in the pudding, but you have to eat it to find out. >
--]Another misinterpretation. What I said equates to the phrase: It ain't
--]over till it's over. Now how does one get a taste of that? (:

You keep on keping on.

--]But my point with the post was really this: Someone mentioned signs of
--]the end times or whatever. What I was trying to do was ask the question:
--]Does believing that there will be an 'end' cause it to happen? What if
--]there were no "signs" or prophecies predicting the end? Some folks, like
--]yourself <?> may not believe that such a thing will happen, but the
--]numbers are against you. Will the belief that this will happen propel it

Does thinking it make it so?

Heck yea. I have known people to make themselve belife and then become all
manner of things. It is the act of imagination and projection that
is at work here. We think it, we beceome it.

When we think metors will crush the earth we see metors everywhere.
When we think the messiah is comming you can be damn sure he is comming
and evry event will fullfill a prophecy.
When we thing there is money to be made on the net then ...well we all
know that one.

its when you stop thinking and projectin the image that things get wonky.
When you loose Faith.....well look at the net for exmaples of this:)- Look
at what happens to religions when the prophices are invoked.

We think it , we be it.

Or to quote Dr F. Furter

"dont dream it, be it"

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